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Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by somenameforme »

wqaatwt wrote: post #134
zmgsabst wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is precisely why as a law-and-order type, I don’t care about this particular incident. A rookie gangster shot a high-tier gangster — why is that a me problem? Gang-on-gang violence is a daily occurrence.

Hypothetically if laws lose their legitimacy because nobody is willing to enforce them (at least some people have that perception) and the political system is designed in such a way as to make any meaningful change near impossible what is there left to do?

And more generally the fundamental reason we agree to operate under laws is because these laws are expected to improve society as a whole. But if those laws instead start enabling and protecting bad behavior then they're doing the exact opposite.

It's fairly obvious that much of what the more sociopathic corporations do today will be illegal in the future, but changes in social opinions tend to predate changes in the law by quite some time. For the obvious extreme there - slavery was completely legal. Society began to believe that such a thing was no longer fit for society, and consequently acting against it, long before it was outlawed.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by apwell23 »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #91
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #71

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> when AI runs everything You can't be seriously considering fancy autocomplete word guessers are replacing governments when Musk can't even get Grok to stop telling Twitter users what a moron he is.

Fancy autocomplete is, today, killing people in at least two wars. We must stop dismissing the technical nightmare now at our doorstep.

llms are killing ppl ? care to share any references ?

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Post by fakedang »

blibble wrote: post #22

> These secure data centers will help support the sovereignty of a country’s data there is no data sovereignty if there's a US entity at the top

I honestly wonder if American companies are so dense that they think foreign governments don't know of the Cloud Act.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by pembrook »

whaleofatw2022 wrote: post #74
hayst4ck wrote: post #69

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That's because there are no consequences for bad behavior, only reward. Game theory dictates that if bad behavior is a winning strategy it will be adopted and propagate until it is the dominant strategy. The only way it stops becoming a winning strategy is if we provide consequences, but that requires taking personal responsibility for the state of the world, which was a core American value, but doesn't seem to be an…

I will dare say, it's a question of what happens to Mario's brother. Jury nullification in that is the best message that could be sent to the populace.

The fact that rich engineers on hacker news would be flirting with bolshevism as their ideology is just endlessly funny to me. I know it’s just people parroting the emotional “vibe” of their political tribe on any given day, but it’s so ironic.

Beyond the obvious moral decay of cheering on murder at all, and the fact you’re in the privileged class of the richest nation on earth, the idea of targeting the replaceable middle managers of said system is so silly. As if committing random acts of terrorism will somehow force Americans to democratically design a better system? Fear is just another recipe for more ballooning costs (see the TSA).

I guess I find this so amusing because leftists love to fetishize European healthcare without understanding in European countries the government is much more aggressive about denying care than any US insurer. They actually have to keep costs sane for their system to continue existing.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by Alex_001 »

slg wrote: post #60
kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #8

> We want to help these countries, and in the process, spread democratic AI I'm reading this in the same voice as Helldivers 2 "managed democracy"

One of the most shocking aspects of this era of history is the number of people who not only end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction, but how many of them seem to be actively and intentionally pursuing that path. It's the Torment Nexus all the way down.

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Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by nicbou »

kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #8

> We want to help these countries, and in the process, spread democratic AI I'm reading this in the same voice as Helldivers 2 "managed democracy"

I just finished reading "Careless People" and the tone is shockingly similar to the one Zuckerberg loved to use. It reminds me of that Silicon Valley scene where every startup wants to "make the world a better place".

As someone who is both expected to keep creating information to train AI while being stripped from the fruit of my labour by it, I find it sickening.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by nicbou »

slg wrote: post #60
kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #8

> We want to help these countries, and in the process, spread democratic AI I'm reading this in the same voice as Helldivers 2 "managed democracy"

One of the most shocking aspects of this era of history is the number of people who not only end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction, but how many of them seem to be actively and intentionally pursuing that path. It's the Torment Nexus all the way down.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus

(@AlexBlechman on twitter)

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