What went wrong with wireless USB

Post by morkalork » Sun, May 04, 2025, 4:01 PM UTC

thaumasiotes wrote: post #93

phire wrote: post #41

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Bluetooth had some early success in cellphones, mostly to support Bluetooth headsets and car radio integration, starting from about 1999. It could do other things, but the wireless headset was the killer app in its early days. Bluetooth didn’t really hit mainstream until the arrival of chipsets that multiplexed Bluetooth and WiFi on the same radio+antenna. My memory is that happened sometime around 2007-2010. At that…

> the wireless headset was the killer app [for Bluetooth] in its early days But the wireless headset is now a horrifying millstone making Bluetooth look like the world's stupidest trash fire. If you enable your microphone, you lose all audio from anything that doesn't want to use the microphone as the headset switches into "headset" mode and drops anything that wants to use "headphones" mode. There is no reason for t…

Post by palata » Sun, May 04, 2025, 4:06 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #128

palata wrote: post #113

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Totally. Many accessories nowadays require bluetooth/wifi where actually they could be connected with a cable: they don't move and they need to be charged. Connecting over a cable is trivial: you detect the connection and that's it, and the user physically sees the connection between the devices. Connecting over radio requires pairing, that is very frustrating when it doesn't work. Pairing is annoying so devices try…

> Connecting over radio requires pairing, that is very frustrating when it doesn't work. Everything's frustrating when it doesn't work. > Connecting over radio requires pairing This is a solved problem, plagued by technology fragmentation. You could very well save the necessary information for discovery and pairing onto an NFC tag and use that to access the network (further authentication might happen, if configured)…

Post by palata » Sun, May 04, 2025, 4:14 PM UTC

justsomehnguy wrote: post #130

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I think I disagree with that. This "people don't want files, they want to share photos", to me, is what product people want to believe. The whole thing has been enforced on users and is self-reinforcing: of course if you don't show files to users, they will not know what a file is. Sure, I may be in a photo gallery and I may want to share a few photos with a friend who may want those photos to be treated as photos (i…

> is what product people want to believe It's quite clear what you never had to explain why 'only looking at a pictures/photos on the Internet' wasted the mobile traffic.

Post by jonesjohnson » Sun, May 04, 2025, 4:20 PM UTC

thaumasiotes wrote: post #93

phire wrote: post #41

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Bluetooth had some early success in cellphones, mostly to support Bluetooth headsets and car radio integration, starting from about 1999. It could do other things, but the wireless headset was the killer app in its early days. Bluetooth didn’t really hit mainstream until the arrival of chipsets that multiplexed Bluetooth and WiFi on the same radio+antenna. My memory is that happened sometime around 2007-2010. At that…

> the wireless headset was the killer app [for Bluetooth] in its early days But the wireless headset is now a horrifying millstone making Bluetooth look like the world's stupidest trash fire. If you enable your microphone, you lose all audio from anything that doesn't want to use the microphone as the headset switches into "headset" mode and drops anything that wants to use "headphones" mode. There is no reason for t…

Post by jonesjohnson » Sun, May 04, 2025, 4:24 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #54

That's one thing, but what happened to wireless HDMI? That would save a lot of cable pain in literally all households out there too.