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Reminder: Meta was fined 1.2 billion euro by the Irish data protection authority. May 22, 2023 was the enforcement date. Question: How many euro do you think have been paid as of today, 2nd May 2025?
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Don't leave us hanging, none of us know.
Sorry, I thought HN would naturally assume the right answer immediately. I could have commented "clue: it's a round number". They haven't paid any of it. Probably never will, perhaps in exchange for some job creation. Never take these kinds of announcement of fines at face value when you read them.
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Really? A nice rational genocide or two? China is an expansionist dictatorship. It would be ridiculous to suggest it is more trustworthy than the US. The US is actually acting rationally IMO. People just look at headlines and do not dig into the reasons. You might not agree with the reasoning, but it is not irrational. For example the tariffs clearly follow from arguments made by Trump's appointees (such as Bessent a…
I happen to live in China right now and am using a VPN. I find your comments to be fundamentally incorrect. I live here more than 20 years and can't find any information about genocide, and I have a lot of (I suppose you are talking about) Xinjiang friends. Yes, there are extremists in Xinjiang with foreign funding. And The the government prepares extreme religious individuals for modern society. This process involve…
Radical islmaists are definitely a thing, but don't you think, the chinese government considers anyone extremist not ok with one party rule?
(I don't expect a honest answer, since you need a vpn to communicate)
And that you don't find information and that your chinese friends don't find know about controversal topic, then this is rather a obvious sign to me, that chinese censorship is working.
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> China is an expansionist dictatorship. It would be ridiculous to suggest it is more trustworthy than the US. China never threatened to annex portions of EU countries, unlike the US. If anything, China is definitely more reliable, as its only disputes with EU are on trade, not anything ideological or that threatens the integrity of each party.
No, not EU countries, but they did annex Tibet, several islands in the South China Sea, and they have every intention of invading Taiwan in the future. Then there’s the belt and road initiative, which is essentially neocolonialism. Edit: I also forgot to mention their human rights violations with regards to the Uyghurs and other minority groups.
I can produce quite a list of human rights violations from the US too, if we are playing this game.
I was not trying to paint China as a happy friendly country. I was just saying that right now China is less of a threat to EU than the US, when those in power in the US numerous times voiced their ideological hatred for Europe
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You think TikTok cares about money? They're a propaganda arm. They don't give a shit about profitability.
Will they really pay it though? I don’t know the rules, etc.
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The Irish regulator is acting on behalf of the EU as TikTok European head quarters are in Ireland. And in terms of jurisdiction - it's a bit like you visiting Ireland on holiday and committing a crime - and then arguing they have no jurisdiction over you as you are only there for 2 weeks.
Sure, it's fine for Ireland to punish someone for a crime committed in Ireland, but my question was about what bearing revenue earned on other continents was any business of Ireland's. A more accurate version of your analogy would be Ireland choosing to punish a tourist for littering with a dramatically higher penalty than native Irish would face based on their New York salary.
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Sorry, I thought HN would naturally assume the right answer immediately. I could have commented "clue: it's a round number". They haven't paid any of it. Probably never will, perhaps in exchange for some job creation. Never take these kinds of announcement of fines at face value when you read them.
Do you have a source for this? I'm having a hard time finding that they did not pay.
[1] https://www.lexisnexis.co.uk/legal/news/meta-s-irish-appeal-...
Reminder: Meta was fined 1.2 billion euro by the Irish data protection authority. May 22, 2023 was the enforcement date. Question: How many euro do you think have been paid as of today, 2nd May 2025?
Do you have a source for this? I'm having a hard time finding that they did not pay.
> The IDPC issued an administrative fine of EUR €1.2 billion as well as corrective orders requiring Meta Platforms Ireland to suspend the relevant transfers and to bring its processing operations into compliance with Chapter V GDPR by ceasing the unlawful processing, including storage, of such data in the United States. We are appealing this Final Decision and it is currently subject to an interim stay from the Irish High Court.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1326801/000132680125...
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Sure, it's fine for Ireland to punish someone for a crime committed in Ireland, but my question was about what bearing revenue earned on other continents was any business of Ireland's. A more accurate version of your analogy would be Ireland choosing to punish a tourist for littering with a dramatically higher penalty than native Irish would face based on their New York salary.
Because, like many other tech companies, Tiktok is funneling most of their global revenue through Ireland where the corporate tax rate is very low. I don't know the specifics of the mechanism used by Tiktok. But, most companies do this by registering all of their IP through their Irish company and then paying licensing fees to the Irish entity that just happen to be all of their profit abroad. This is why the Irish r…