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Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #9

The "fair use" part takes a lot of place in this article. It talks a lot about what happens if you use more tokens than what you're allowed, but curiously doesn't pip a word about what happens if you use less - for example maybe with a partial rebate on your next billing cycle ? I think "fair" should mean "fair for all parties involved", currently it's rather a "we don't want to incur any risk" policy, since I don't…

Yeah I concur. As an early adopter I first got forced off my grandfather plan to the regular one(at least I got a T-shirt). Now I have a limited number of searches that I have to keep track of and this has made me only use Kagi if necessary. This has dropped my number of searches significantly but at the end of the year I’m still being charged for renewing my plan even though I haven’t used a quarter of my allotted s…

Then don't renew. Nobody is forcing you to pay for the service, and from what you wrote, it sounds like the service is not what you need/want (anymore).

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We plan to display cost and interaction details more prominently soon, potentially on the billing page or directly within the Assistant interface. I too want to see this soon. As a long time user of Ultimate it isn't uncommon for me to use 5M tokens per month and I have no idea if this will be covered by my subscription now.

How do you know how many tokens you've used? Or is it a guesstimate?

The following should say your daily token usage:

https://kagi.com/settings?p=consumption

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#144
post #45

I was given a free month of Kagi to test, and it had so many rough edges that during the last days of of the trial I was already using Google again. Notable issues for me: - maps (from Mapbox) are really bad. Sluggish performance and lack of information - barely any info boxes - no translation feature ("gründonnerstag englisch") gives me links to leo.org (which was a cool site in the 00s) and to other sites, but Goog…

Kagi not saving search history is a big selling point for me. I don't want yet another tech company keeping tabs on me.

And I wouldn't care if they dropped maps, I pay for kagi for search and the assistant.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#145
Kagi are one of my favorite companies. In a world where buying a T-shirt requires me to hand over my phone number ("in case we need to contact you about your order" - yeah, right) I find it so refreshing that kagi barely require any info from me except some form of payment.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#146
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search isn't getting limited is it? And the GPT features always had some limits.

I'm not paying for search, I'm paying for Unlimited Assistant. No, they did not "have some limits". Or at least, the product they sold me was very clearly labelled "Unlimited". The word "Unlimited" is literally in the name, and it was described as such in more wordly descriptions.

Maybe your usage might not be affected, I propose to check for a month and if it really goes over the limit, you have the option of canceling the subscription.

It definitely is worded in a way that it can either be interpreted as (unlimited searches and unlimited premium ai) or (unlimited searches and premium ai).

It also may not help that they did not enforce the fair use policy until now. At least that is what I read out of their blog post.

But the fair use policy has been included a long time. I checked 2023-12-25 and found it there, might be available earlier, but no interest in looking harder.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#147
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search isn't getting limited is it? And the GPT features always had some limits.

I'm not paying for search, I'm paying for Unlimited Assistant. No, they did not "have some limits". Or at least, the product they sold me was very clearly labelled "Unlimited". The word "Unlimited" is literally in the name, and it was described as such in more wordly descriptions.

I'm not going to argue about your interpretation of the word unlimited and wish that its use was either banned or strictly enforced in this (and similar) contexts. That said, until accountability is legislated and enforced, it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited. Just as marketing abuses the word, customers abuse the concept. That's especially true in a domain where processes can be automated and distributed, by some means or others.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#150

Is there a way to disable this? We have a strict no-ai policy. Even having it available will be an issue and I may not be able to use Kagi at work.

As a user myself, I'm not sure. Assistant is a separate view so it's easy to never interact with it but yeah, I can see why that might be a work policy issue. You could try requesting that as a feature in https://kagifeedback.org. The team are quite responsive there and historically Vlad the CEO reads every post.
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