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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
English-speaking eastern christians call it this too. But every day of holy week is named like that, holy tuesday, holy saturday, etc. Easter/Pascha is the one exception in the week.
At risk of being a pedant, Pascha would not be the exception to Holy Week but rather after the conclusion of Holy Week. The end of week is sundown on Saturday. After Holy Week has ended on Saturday, The Resurrection (i.e. Pascha), occurs on the first day of the week - Sunday. :)
Oh yeah true. Then... palm sunday is the exception?
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#143I find it odd how Easter, a pre-Christian Pagan festival (worshipping goddess of fertility: Eostre) has become seemingly-arbitrarily connected to the purported events at the end of Jesus' life.. yet it still includes a good amount of the prior symbolism (rabbits, eggs etc)! Still great to have a short break from work! Not arguing against it at all, it just seems a bit bizarre to me overall.
I've spent a fair amount of time studying ancient Sumerian culture and religion as a hobby, and the often repeated claim that "Easter comes from Ishtar" just doesn't hold up to even minimal scrutiny. It's one of those internet factoids that sounds plausible on the surface but completely falls apart under actual historical or linguistic analysis. There's no serious academic support for a connection between the Christi…
Okay let's all forget that there's actually a Book in the Old Testament named "Esther" which is named after a Queen of the Hebrews, renowned for her heroic virtue, not to mention exceptional beauty, chastity, and modesty. Esther saved her people, the Israelites, from genocide and destruction. Esther represents a New Passover [Pesach] for her people in the Promised Land.
Esther should have been contemporarily famous and renowned, several millennia B.C.; let's just ignore and forget Esther???
And thus, Ishtar Ruins Easter: https://youtu.be/Qd-wvVNEfNk?si=oJqkKALfn4xBX-zb
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#144I find it odd how Easter, a pre-Christian Pagan festival (worshipping goddess of fertility: Eostre) has become seemingly-arbitrarily connected to the purported events at the end of Jesus' life.. yet it still includes a good amount of the prior symbolism (rabbits, eggs etc)! Still great to have a short break from work! Not arguing against it at all, it just seems a bit bizarre to me overall.
I find it fascinating that a lot of traditional holidays seem to have acquired multiple, sometimes conflicting narratives over the ages. Christmas is the most obvious one (what does a bearded dude on the north pole have to do with the birth of Jesus? For Germans specifically: The "Christkind" is Baby Jesus, but its also a kind of spirit of its own who brings presents, and for some reason usually depicted as a girl?)…
> But you also have a similar thing for Carnival: Traditionally, it's the last feast before Lent (where Lent is also an expanded narrative of Easter!).
So Lent is not an "expanded narrative of Easter"; it's a period of preparation, prayer, self-denial and almsgiving; it represents the 40 years' wandering in the wilderness that the Jews endured, and the 40 days in the desert when Christ was tempted by Satan. So it's distinct from the Easter celebrations.
Carnival is not a "Christian feast". Carnival is an umbrella term for various secular celebrations. But indeed, this has roots in Jewish traditions.
What the Jews will typically do in preparation for Pesach is to cleanse the home of all forbidden leavening and unkosher food: chametz. And this is sometimes done in a quite ritualistic fashion, and the children are involved, and it's like a scavenger hunt (and may have some cultural exchange with Easter Egg hunts) where the adults may challenge the kids to find every crumb of chametz and collect it and present it to the head of household. Then the chametz is destroyed, or sold or traded to a Gentile.
And so Carnival (folk etymology may consist of "farewell to meat [carne, vale]") is a festival where people are eating up the leftover meat that they've stored up. "Mardi Gras", "Fat Tuesday", and "Pancake Tuesday" is where they're using up the remaining fat to make pancakes. The Byzantines have elaborate fasting/abstinence rules which preclude the use of oils and butter and many things for certain periods. And this reflects prior Western traditions. Abstinence from meat used to stretch for all of Lent, not just Fridays. And so, Carnival was one of those cycles where you prepared for Lent (itself a preparation) because Lent was going to be the "lean months" before the springtime feasting.
And of course Carnival also took on the carousing and drinking and licentiousness of fertility rites; why not all that. If you were eating meat then you probably had some good wines or booze to go with it?
But Carnival has never been a Christian sort of religious or liturgical feast or season. Carnival coincides with Ordinary Time these days, or "Sundays after Epiphany" in the old General Roman Calendar of 1960. But Church authorities and Canon Law did not specify any particular methods for eating up our stores of flesh meat, or getting it on and flashing boobs on Bourbon Street.
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
English-speaking eastern christians call it this too. But every day of holy week is named like that, holy tuesday, holy saturday, etc. Easter/Pascha is the one exception in the week.
At risk of being a pedant, Pascha would not be the exception to Holy Week but rather after the conclusion of Holy Week. The end of week is sundown on Saturday. After Holy Week has ended on Saturday, The Resurrection (i.e. Pascha), occurs on the first day of the week - Sunday. :)
Liturgically, the day begins at sundown and both the Holy Week and Paschal services are moved to the beginning of the Liturgical day “in anticipation”. So the Lamentation service of Holy Saturday will have been said on the calendar-Friday and the first services of Pascha, the Rush Procession and Orthros (Matins), will start on calendar-Saturday. So, Pascha begins on Saturday, but also on Sunday depending on your reference point.
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's actually called holy Friday (Vendredi Saint) in France.
English-speaking eastern christians call it this too. But every day of holy week is named like that, holy tuesday, holy saturday, etc. Easter/Pascha is the one exception in the week.
In Dutch those have all their own somewhat cryptic names: Goede Vrijdag (Good Friday), Witte Donderdag (White Thurday), Stille Zaterdag (Silent Saturday).
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
At risk of being a pedant, Pascha would not be the exception to Holy Week but rather after the conclusion of Holy Week. The end of week is sundown on Saturday. After Holy Week has ended on Saturday, The Resurrection (i.e. Pascha), occurs on the first day of the week - Sunday. :)
Oh yeah true. Then... palm sunday is the exception?
No, it's the first day of the holy week
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#148Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#149In my country it is called literally Crucifixion Friday
Same in Ethiopia
Re: Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
At risk of being a pedant, Pascha would not be the exception to Holy Week but rather after the conclusion of Holy Week. The end of week is sundown on Saturday. After Holy Week has ended on Saturday, The Resurrection (i.e. Pascha), occurs on the first day of the week - Sunday. :)
Liturgically, the day begins at sundown and both the Holy Week and Paschal services are moved to the beginning of the Liturgical day “in anticipation”. So the Lamentation service of Holy Saturday will have been said on the calendar-Friday and the first services of Pascha, the Rush Procession and Orthros (Matins), will start on calendar-Saturday. So, Pascha begins on Saturday, but also on Sunday depending on your refe…
There are places like Mt. Athos, West Bank monasteries they actually keep time like that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_time
So sundown is 00:00 and so on.