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They’re blowing up children. If I am against that, is that now a bad thing? This is how far we’ve fallen. We have a nation state committing a genocide of an indigenous people and the Human Rights Watch is accused of being biased against the genociders. “I feel this organization is biased against the Nazi party” is essentially the same sentence.

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America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

It doesn't matter if they're citizens or not if the government is skipping court thus not being required to prove it either way. Then when they oopsie you to another country they have to at least try to pretend to get you back but the courts need to show "deference owed to the executive branch in the conduct of foreign affairs". Which is a long way of saying the executive can blackhole anyone it wants to a foreign co…

>Which is a long way of saying the executive can blackhole anyone it wants

Do you have examples of the executive doing this to citizens or are you being hypothetical here?

Countries generally grant far fewer rights to non-citizens. Have you considered how allowing non-citizens to spread discontent within a country could be abused?

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A two state solution is never possible when one state keeps expanding with impunity, and every time the second state resists it is called a terrorist state. My country resisted colonization in the mid 20th century and the resistance efforts were called terrorism by everyone, nobody calls them terrorists now.

What country are you from? It is entirely possible they are still terrorists you just decided as society to ignore it.

The ICC has never issued any arrest warrants for our elected/appointed government officials if that's what you are asking.

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You’re not arrested for posting this, so that is a pretty big difference to Russia (and other authoritarian nations like China and Turkey), no? https://rsf.org/en/country/russia

America's arrested rather a large number of people in recent weeks—university students, mostly—for expressing viewpoints on the I/P conflict. The current Administration is claiming, and no one's yet stopped them, that First Amendment rights don't apply to non-citizens such as international students. - "You’re not arrested for posting this" For what it's worth, it's widely reported that ICE is trawling social media to…

Not great but still better than defenestration I guess.

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I cannot read your paywalled Atlantic link, but the other link is an account from an aggrieved ex-employee and should also be taken with a grain of salt.

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#146

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They’re blowing up children. If I am against that, is that now a bad thing? This is how far we’ve fallen. We have a nation state committing a genocide of an indigenous people and the Human Rights Watch is accused of being biased against the genociders. “I feel this organization is biased against the Nazi party” is essentially the same sentence.

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3 opinion pieces as evidence.

Not beating the allegations.

"You shouldn't trust the internationally-recognized and acclaimed and trusted Human Rights Watch, here are some opinions pieces that tell you the REAL truth!"

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If a human rights org were highly critical of Russia but not Ukraine, is that a bias as well? Reality isn't politically neutral.

Bias means you're more likely to amplify facts in your favor and discount those against you. I said nothing about reality. I 100% agree that the political left is far more detached from reality than the right, especially when it comes to the Israel-Hamas conflict.

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They’re blowing up children. If I am against that, is that now a bad thing? This is how far we’ve fallen. We have a nation state committing a genocide of an indigenous people and the Human Rights Watch is accused of being biased against the genociders. “I feel this organization is biased against the Nazi party” is essentially the same sentence.

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> Israel Implemented More Measures to Prevent Civilian Casualties Than Any Other Nation in History

Well, they're not very good in preventing civilian casualties. I'm pretty sure they rank pretty fucking high on the list of causing civilian casualties, actually.

Most other nations don't need any such measures implemented since, you know, they don't commit genocide.

"You should be happy we didn't kill more people, because we could!" is not a particularly good argument for your cause.

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It doesn't matter if they're citizens or not if the government is skipping court thus not being required to prove it either way. Then when they oopsie you to another country they have to at least try to pretend to get you back but the courts need to show "deference owed to the executive branch in the conduct of foreign affairs". Which is a long way of saying the executive can blackhole anyone it wants to a foreign co…

>Which is a long way of saying the executive can blackhole anyone it wants Do you have examples of the executive doing this to citizens or are you being hypothetical here? Countries generally grant far fewer rights to non-citizens. Have you considered how allowing non-citizens to spread discontent within a country could be abused?

- "Do you have examples of the executive doing this to citizens or are you being hypothetical here?"

"Do you have examples of this severity-11 CVE being used in the wild, or are you just being hypothetical here?" It's a horrifically exploitable bug, were it left unpatched.

It's not some fringe conspiracy theory that this is how the law works and how the law would work on contact with US citizens; the Garcia SCOTUS concurrence explicitly underscored this perversity,

- "The Government’s argument, moreover, implies that it could deport and incarcerate any person, including U.S. citizens [sic!], without legal consequence, so long as it does so before a court can intervene... That view refutes itself."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

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