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Tailscale has raised $160M

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I'd be surprised if the average package for SWE is $1M/year (fully loaded).

Generally package is around half of what company spends per extra engineer. And $500k average for a tech heavy product company doesn't sound too far off.

This is just wrong. What exactly do think companies are spending 500k on per engineer beyond the TC package?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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This is not correct. Wireguard establishes a tunnel between peer A and B, and its simplicity stops there. Tailscale does tons of complex networking, filtering, nat traversal, DNS, file sharing, etc. Wireguard is a small part of the codebase today, which has grown a lot. It’s a bit like saying Dropbox is just a GUI on top of TLS.

Probably closer to say that Dropbox is a GUI on top of WebDAV

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Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Everyone is commenting on the HN headline, no one on the actual post: > Building the New Internet (Insert mandatory reference to Silicon Valley here :)) > We think there’s a better way forward. We're calling it identity-first networking. I would love to see this. Every day I have to stare at YAML files with IP addresses in them is a day I will never get back. I wish cjdns[0] had succeeded already but oh well, now I h…

Operant has something similar in IIoT, https://operantnetworks.com/sie-sbd-part2/ 1. Immutable Content Naming: In a data-centric system, content is addressed by its name, transcending geographical considerations. This circumvents the vulnerabilities associated with IP addresses, which can be spoofed or manipulated. By employing cryptographic techniques to validate the authenticity of content names, NDN establishes a…

This is about data, though, not about addresses, is it?

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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Off-topic, but it makes me laugh that companies will list their “investors”, “advisors”, etc. on their company page, but not the people working there. That said, Tailscale is one of the products that just works.

I think my employer decided to remove all non-executives at some point to ward off headhunters. Not sure how much it helps considering everyone's on LinkedIn.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

#145
anyone care to share how they are spending money? labor, operations (training, transfer fees), marketing & business development. It's different than industries I'm more familiar with.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally package is around half of what company spends per extra engineer. And $500k average for a tech heavy product company doesn't sound too far off.

This is just wrong. What exactly do think companies are spending 500k on per engineer beyond the TC package?

office space of course!

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally package is around half of what company spends per extra engineer. And $500k average for a tech heavy product company doesn't sound too far off.

This is just wrong. What exactly do think companies are spending 500k on per engineer beyond the TC package?

HR, marketing, sales, management, office space, servers, licenses, insurance, etc.

It seems on the high end, but not too unrealistic.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

#149
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If they had taken just say $40 million would they be able to sustain their project for the foreseeable future and perhaps not yield as much future product direction and equity? I honestly don't know how this big dealmaking works but it strikes me that when you take out this big of an obligation that the obligation has a gravity that may drag you in a direction you (or consumers) do not want to go. Love Tailscale as a…

Yeah I take this as bad news, as a user. I dread the inevitable enshittification. Hopefully open source UX over Wireguard is close-enough to as good by the time they drive me away that losing them isn't too painful.

Took a project I'd been putting off and putting off because I knew it'd eat half a Saturday, and made it a 20-minute affair from signup to having everything done, including adding some devices to the network that I wouldn't even have bothered to try adding on my own.

Re: Tailscale has raised $160M

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When I saw the new round, I was instantly worried about change in direction that will most likely come with this, and effectively drive away regular users from a tool that seems universally loved. Similar sentiment can be seen in the discussion from three years ago [1] when they raised $100M. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31259950

Try netbird which is an open-source alternative to free yourself from worries xD https://github.com/netbirdio/netbird

I use personally for my home network. Very easy to use and quite mature. I'd highly recommend.
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