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An inappropriate comparison to Nazis would not be illegal even in Germany. Those laws are by far not as broad as you imply here.
US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back
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#142> The Trump administration argues that because the man is no longer in U.S. custody, a U.S. court lacks jurisdiction to issue orders regarding his detention and release. That's evil and stupid. By that twisted logic, the President can ship all the gold in Fort Knox to a Russian bank under his own name, and US courts "won't have jurisdiction" to rule that it must be returned.
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#143My first thought seeing this headline: "Please don't tell me he got sent to CECOT." > Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) admitted to mistakenly sending Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia to El Salvador’s notoriously brutal CECOT prison. :O If you haven't heard of CECOT, go watch one of the recent YouTube videos on it. I'm glad that El Salvador has taken control over gang activity but, man, CECOT is one of the last p…
> Abrego Garcia’s family has had no contact with him since he was sent to the megaprison in El Salvador, known as the CECOT. His wife spotted her husband in news photographs released by Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele on the morning of March 16, after a U.S. District Judge had told the Trump administration to halt the flights. “Oopsie,” Bukele wrote on social media, taunting the judge.
The man is nothing more than a tyrant with a smile, and now his concentration camp will be used to house whoever pays him or gets in his way, not just alleged gang members. He's already in power unconstitutionally: https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-elections-bukele-demo...
Now it may take decades for Salvadorans to rid themselves of this dictatorship.
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#144The headline only tells half the story. This guy had previously been scheduled for deportation due to sufficient evidence that linked him to MS-13. It was an administrative error that he was deported to the wrong country. Here’s a link to the court case: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-...
'Sufficient evidence' in this case being an allegation from a confidential informant. If you settle for low standards you will get lower and lower quality outcomes.
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#145Trump admin looks closer and closer to nazi germany.
Please go read up what happened outside Krakow, Poland in the 1940s. I did. I actually visited. Trump is still very very far away from that. Assuming this man is innocent, we should rather blame El Salvador for actually imprisoning him.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 15-30 million hearings What level of false positives are you willing to tolerate - US nationals wrongly deported? How many fatalities (including suicides) are you willing to tolerate in this process? (fairly easy to imagine hypothetical situation: lawful US national gun owner with Hispanic name is shopped to immigration by his neighbours. ICE come to his house in the middle of the night to deprive him of his rights…
He shows his id and they say sorry to disturb you sir.
One reason is that things like this happen, where every time is a chance for someone to be hurt, killed, or deported in a country where it is not uncommon for officers to beat or shoot people for perceived non-compliance:
> “I was born in Chicago, Illinois, and am a United States citizen,” Noriega said in his statement, adding that on Jan. 31, after buying pizza in Berwyn he was surrounded by ICE agents and arrested. Officers took away his wallet, which had his ID and Social Security card. “They then handcuffed me and pushed me into a white van where other people were handcuffed as well.”
https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/03/14/us-citiz...
> Jensy Machado, who says he voted for President Donald Trump, told Telemundo 44 that on March 5, ICE agents blocked in his pickup truck not far from his Manassas home as he headed to work with two other men. He said the agents initially refused to let him show his REAL ID-compliant Virginia driver’s license, proof of his lawful status in the U.S.
> “They didn’t ask me for any ID,” he said. “I was telling the officer if I can give an ID, but he said to just keep my hands up and not moving. And then after that, he told me to get out of the car and then he put the handcuffs on me. And then he went to me and said how did I get into this country and if I was waiting for court or do I have any case? And I told him I was an American citizen, and he looked at his other partner, like, you know, smiling, like saying, ‘Can you believe this guy?’ Because he asked the other guy, ‘Do you believe him?’”
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/president-trump-politics/...
Re: US accidentally sent Maryland father to Salvadorian prison, can't get him back
#147It's not an accident if the government intentionally circumvents all checks that usually would apply to cases like this and denies them due process. It's also intentional that they send these people to a prison in a different country (and for most of them not the country they are originally from) with conditions that would certainly be illegal in the US itself. This is also about more than just this single case. From…
Ironically, from the Declaration of Independence:
> Grievance 18: "For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Jury trial:"
> Grievance 19: "For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses:"
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievances_of_the_United_State...
Also, given January 6:
> Grievance 27: "He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us […]
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's so important to get done quickly, hire more people to do it. Move resources to solve the most pressing problems first. Otherwise let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes.
>Otherwise let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes. Once again I agree with you. Let's deport them first and make remote immigration courts in every US embassy. This way they have remedy for false positives, and let law/justice take as long as law/justice takes
What's that you say? You have not committed a crime? Unfortunately, our records indicate that you have. Bummer! :\
You're an American Citizen? Why, that changes things! Hard to tell lookin at ya ;). But unfortunately we don't have the time or resources to make a positive determination about that now, so you'll have to wait in Venezuela for as long as it takes while the law/justice sorts this out.
Yes, I understand you claim you've done nothing wrong, but you've got to understand, people voted to get rid of "people like you", and that's the president's mandate. So in the end it may turn out that you're innocent, but for the next 4 years please enjoy this Venezuelan gulag. It's your patriotic duty.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a demonstration that party's over, "damn illegals will be deported". Yes, the government knows that the deportation was unjust, what about that?
It's a poor demonstration, then?
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
He shows his id and they say sorry to disturb you sir.
The US has mandatory national ID for everyone now? (edit: at the moment the only possible document would be a US passport, because a driving license doesn't prove nationality, so the 50% of Americans who don't have passports are SOL)