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Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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They are giving reasons that claim it will be better for everyone in the end, but this is obviously not true for devs of LineageOS and Graphene.

Why is it OK for corporations to make self-interested sociopathic decisions that harm consumers then slap a post-hoc rationalization that is basically a lie to appease the public? It's so common that almost every corporation does it, and most people don't even take note.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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You say “go back” but that was never more than a niche thing. For better or worse, Google’s Android has pretty much always been the chief representative of mobile Linux. And far from being a waste of time, Android is the most widely distributed mobile operating system on the planet.

> You say “go back” but that was never more than a niche thing. but you could walk to a phone shop and buy a Linux phone, for example FirefoxOS.

Yeah, and there was also Maemo/Meego that was also sold on stores. Neither had a very high market share.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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But copyleft is bad and everyone should use BSD ... Code is turned proprietary by huge corporate with massive development resources. No one could have predicted this.

Stallman was right again.

and yet, corporate drones will make fun of him, and they will keep missing the point...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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post #106
post #50

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But copyleft is bad and everyone should use BSD ... Code is turned proprietary by huge corporate with massive development resources. No one could have predicted this.

Stallman was right again.

The dude is solid as it gets on all this.

Yet people ignore him and then realize that was one of those too late types

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Parity will only be achieved for me when the iPhone supports FDroid, and allows the replacement of default apps with apps of my choosing.

I'm in a similar spot. There are a few pixel exclusive features that I would certainly miss but I spent a few decades not having a personal assistant robot screen my calls and texts, I can survive without it in the future. Tasker used to be in a class of its own but I believe shortcuts is now as powerful and it even has a user experience that isn't hostile! That might be a net benefit... I hate the iOS keyboard and m…

my chief grief with Apple is the same as yours, I solve it by using a home server w/ self hosted pwas to do everything this pocketable "computer" should be able to do. Sometimes I wonder about flying to the EU to reactivate my phone there if that's possible but knowing Apple there'll be some terrifying kafkaesque twist

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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This really reminds me of Open Solaris. > We will no longer distribute source code for the entirety of the Solaris operating system in real-time In the case of Open Solaris, the code never came out from that point onwards. For Android, the likely end goal is to do the bare minimum of distributing only copyleft code that they don't own copyright to. Until those get replaced with a closed alternative. https://www.youtu…

Only if they stop pushing code changes to AOSP...

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

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Yep. An open source license doesn't mean anything if a project is dependent on a single company for ongoing development.

The weird thing is, why is that the case? I'm trying to think of a mobile OS feature addition that has made me say "I need to upgrade my phone" and it just hasn't happened recently. It's more like, damn it, the dastardly thing stopped receiving security updates and now I have to replace it for no good reason. Isn't Android done yet? What further development is required that couldn't be done by the community?

The point is it doesn't have a developer community that could maintain the project without Google.

Re: Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week

#150

Help me understand what this means to e.g. GrapheneOS, please. Will it be able to exist and just have to wait longer for updates or will it be in real jeopardy?

Discussion on the GrapheneOS forum: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21231-google-will-develop-t...
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