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Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by intrasight »

linguae wrote: post #39
Daishiman wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no reason apart from Apple's closed-source restrictive software policies that the device is nowhere near as useful as it could be.

Agreed. The iPad, from a hardware point of view, is a close approximation to Alan Kay's Dynabook concept ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynabook ). It's a shame that iPads are so locked down; I'd love to use an iPad with an unrestricted operating system. I have a Microsoft Surface 7 Pro. Even though Windows is not my favorite operating system, I enjoy using the hardware. I'm also looking forward to Framework's upcom…

Pricing will be key for that Framework 12. I hope it's competitive. Like ~$600.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by j45 »

Apple experimented with the iPad head to head with was also experimenting with the 12” MacBook retina which was only 12 lb.

If you want something iPad size with a first class keyboard and mouse experience there might not be a better remote terminal than the 12” MacBook (sans touch screen) compared to the iPad

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by bruce511 »

>> Will we still have just three operating systems to choose from - of which only two are really suitable for a worker's desktop?

Such an intriguing statement. Firstly there are at least 5 major operating systems in play (windows, MacOS, Linux, iOS and Android. ) Plus a lot of "minor" ones (BSD etc), and any number of tiny ones.

But assuming he meant mainstream desktop machines, let's focus on Windows, Mac and Linux. I can only assume the "not suitable for workers desktop " means Linux. Now lots of techies use Linux for desktop, and there are lots who say it could be used as a general desktop, but it hasn't gained much traction there.

Linux of course reigns on the server, with Windows Server also strong.

Indeed you see this "choice of 2" (with sometimes a distant 3rd) in pretty much all hardware spaces. iOS and Android. Windows and Mac. Windows and Linux. PS5 and Xbox.

Notice how it starts first with the function - what the machine is designed to do. Then the mainstream coaleses around 2 players. But often with other minor alternatives.

This approach works well. We don't need 5 desktop OSs to choose from. Or 5 servers. Or 5 tablets.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by smegsicle »

onceler wrote: post #120
mullingitover wrote: post #104

"My decade-old and very well-travelled Toyota Land Cruiser finally died, and I hoped my new-ish ebike could replace it." How that article sounds. I don't care how fancy they make them, iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work.

Except in this metaphor, the "ebike" has en engine as powerful as a new "landcruiser", and attachment points that could allow quickly/easily adding extra seating or cargo capacity. That such a thing seems absurd illustrates how poorly the metaphor fits. The only reason that "iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work" is because Apple chooses to limit them. I have a laptop which I only rarely use as a l…

engines are expensive, processors are cheap. and as revamp and degerret pointed out the hardware is a lossleader for the appstore

here's a nickel to buy a real computer, as they say

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by everyone »

This is pathetic, just get literally any laptop u want.. have one made up if u want, and put linux on it.

apple-heads have some sort of bizarre stockholm syndrome thing going on.

The mental gymnastics they do are insane. I guess that's what comes from decades of buying the same components as everyone else, but in a shiny box with a shit OS and a 4X markup.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by trog »

davemp wrote: post #133
onceler wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except in this metaphor, the "ebike" has en engine as powerful as a new "landcruiser", and attachment points that could allow quickly/easily adding extra seating or cargo capacity. That such a thing seems absurd illustrates how poorly the metaphor fits. The only reason that "iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work" is because Apple chooses to limit them. I have a laptop which I only rarely use as a l…

Let’s not pretend that Apple could come up with some sort of dual windowing system (or just dual boot) scheme. We’re not limited by drive space anymore. They don’t because it would hurt macbook sales.

Maybe they don't because they've seen what happens when Microsoft tried to build an OS that was both touch screen and mouse & keyboard.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by goblin89 »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #108
mullingitover wrote: post #104

"My decade-old and very well-travelled Toyota Land Cruiser finally died, and I hoped my new-ish ebike could replace it." How that article sounds. I don't care how fancy they make them, iPads are just unserious computing devices for real work.

If you're an artist who draws, I think they're serious computing devices.

An iPad is an interesting device. It has many uses where it is indispensable, but most of them are unknown to most people.

I often see a sound engineer with an iPad on music gigs. The form factor allows you to walk around the room and adjust the sound easily to tame resonances and such.

It’s not so good for typing text or programming, but where it makes sense to have a portable slab of screen that works reliably there is probably an app that does it.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

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Post by h4ck_th3_pl4n3t »

Why did the author buy Microsoft and Apple devices and expect them to deliver their customization needs?

If I would attempt something like this today, I'd probably buy a used Microsoft Surface tablet from ebay and install Archlinux(ARM) on it, with Plasma Mobile and KDE. In the worst case I log out and log in again after I unplugged the device from its peripherals. And in second worst case I just use its mobile attachable keyboard with it.

I guess that was the dream behind the purchases of pinephones and pinetab devices back then, which were too underpowered in terms of CPU and GPU for it.

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