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Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by zimpenfish »

Jigsy wrote: post #118
zimpenfish wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This was Brexits doing. Not really? We've had horrors like the 2000 RIP[0] well before Brexit. The Blair government made a huge dent in civil liberties and the Tories carried it on. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Po...

This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour. The UK has always hated not allowing people to self-incriminate, though...

> This is one of the reasons why I will never vote Labour.

The Tories are generally worse. But I agree it's currently a case of "lesser of two evils".

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by kandesbunzler »

busymom0 wrote: post #50
scarface_74 wrote: post #28

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While Apple especially under Tim Cook has done a lot questionable acquiescences under Cook for political expediences, they really didn’t have a choice here. It was the law. Now going back on Twitter to get in the good graces of President Musk and bringing TikTok back to the AppStore even though it is clearly against the law is different.

> they really didn’t have a choice here They did have a choice. They could have said they will just get out of UK. That would have resulted in enough political turmoil in UK that their government would roll back this stupid law. Apple chickened out.

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Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by sunaookami »

doublerabbit wrote: post #88
declan_roberts wrote: post #46

I don't get what's happening to civil liberty in Europe.

This was Brexits doing. As we are no longer EU, we have our own cool rules such as the upcoming PM allowed to watch me take a piss law.

The EU is currently planning exactly the same thing with Chat Control.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by talldayo »

ta8645 wrote: post #135

Free speech already under threat and now y'all are giving up the right of private communication too? For anyone cheering this on, do you honestly think this will only affect the "bad people", and you'll never have your own neck under the government's boot? Even if you trust the government today, what happens when your neighbors elect a government you disagree with ideologically?

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Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by SXX »

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #132
SXX wrote: post #75

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This will likely depend on your primary account region. Apple can't just turn off E2EE on existing account nilly willy.

If they are able to, then then can be compelled. Do you mean won't/wouldn't?

They can break a sync on server-side for your account.

They can't disable it on device though.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by poisonborz »

wackget wrote: post #127

So instead of building a back door they're just completely removing the option to use E2E encryption altogether, thus making everything freely available to government by default? How is that not worse or at least equivalent to a back door?

Much better than a false sense of security. Customers know what they get, and can choose other products instead of being confused or cheated.

Re: Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row

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Post by nottorp »

bArray wrote: post #106

Too right, it was far more problematic than they ever made out. > The UK government's demand came through a "technical capability notice" under the Investigatory Powers Act (IPA), requiring Apple to create a backdoor that would allow British security officials to access encrypted user data globally. The order would have compromised Apple's Advanced Data Protection feature, which provides end-to-end encryption for iCl…

> have an Android device beside me that regularly asks me to back my device up to the cloud

But is that backup encrypted? If it's not, all they need is to access your data.

This is about having access to backups that are theoretically encrypted with a key Apple doesn't have?

> We're talking about the largest back door I've ever heard of.

Doesn't the US have access to all the data of non US citizens whose data is stored in the US without any oversight?

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