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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by glowiefedposter »

xzjis wrote: post #126
decimalenough wrote: post #4

Remember the Arab Spring and how Twitter was hailed as a tool for the masses to fight against their oppressors? And remember how Elon bought Twitter, loudly proclaiming he was doing so to defend free speech? I'm mildly curious to see how X tries to justify this, but I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values.

"Freedom of speech" on Twitter is nothing more than Newspeak for censorship. In reality, the goal has always been to silence minorities who already struggle to express themselves, while allowing hate, racist, homophobic, and transphobic language to run rampant. It is a form of indirect censorship, through the self-censorship of minorities who fear speaking out. Then comes direct censorship, where certain terms or lin…

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by iszomer »

sounddetective wrote: post #68

Everyone reading this -- sign up for Bluesky, help it build up a larger network effect, so it can outcompete X. It already has 30m users.

I have and deactivated my account a day or two in -- that un-removable message up top that it will use your posts, likes, etc to train their models unsettled me. At least they were upfront about it, unlike Twitter/X.

I also didn't like that I had 30 different followers the moment I signed up.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by phtrivier »

andrepd wrote: post #108
firen777 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xitter is the least of the issues considering his tie to China and Russia and the all-you-can-eat buffet happening right now in the US government.

Flood the zone. Propose ethinc cleansing and sell Ukraine to Russia and manipulate the German elections and censor twitter and cut usaid and pass inane stuff about transgenders. All in the space of a week. How can you even process what's happening, let alone resist it?

You pick a line where you have some degree of control, and you stay focussed on it.

Coordination should not be about "hey, let's all make a lot of noise about his last move", because you're overwhelmed. It's about making sure not too many people are working on the same line.

You pick a line. One where you can act.

You get one executive order rescinded. Someone else work on another one. You legislate one doggy doger at a time. You focus like crazy. (First action to focus is, of course, to delete your Twitter account.)

You make noise about all the times where you win, and they loose.

In two years, you get the voters out.

If you don't have any other control then "not playing their game, and wait", that's at least something. There's probably a food bank close to your place. Keep the lights on there.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by concordDance »

ml-anon wrote: post #133
everdrive wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Remember the Arab Spring and how Twitter was hailed as a tool for the masses to fight against their oppressors? The Arab spring was a populist uprising. It's not clear that there were actually positive outcomes; just increased geopolitical instability. Twitter has always been a social media platform, and definitionally it has therefore always increased extremism and populism. I find it incredibly disheartening that…

Twitter was a net positive for many. Millions of people around the world relied on it for timely news and updates in the absence of other avenues. This was particularly pertinent in places like Africa where state infrastructure wasn't able to provide or indeed, the middle east, where censorship prevented accurate news being disseminated. So your assertion that "Twitter was _never_ a net positive for anyone" is not on…

> So your assertion that "Twitter was _never_ a net positive for anyone" is not only false but an absurdly biased and frankly wrong view on how the world accesses information.

I presume the grandparent was being rhetorical and trying to say Twitter was always a net negative for society as a whole.

Even today, its a net positive for plenty of people (myself included).

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by kzs0 »

abernard1 wrote: post #110
ta1243 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer.

Your comment is quite extraordinary as Orwell's work dealt with an unthinking bureaucracy resembling the Soviet Union. He also had the foresight to see the U.K. could be a totalitarian state. An honest assessment of the revelations of USAID spending and its funding of literally thousands of media companies via direct grants or voluntary purchases would suggest the information environment surrounding this is not entir…

But how does any of that relate to banning signal links regardless? This is an effort to reduce self-organization and solidarity between affected normal people. It isn’t just USAID, 100,000+ people are being illegally terminated across the government (probationary employees who are only allowed to be fired for “performance,” but many/most have fine reviews and/or just started).

If a bunch of new people are being fired after having just moved or started new positions, why wouldn’t people try self organizing to support their coworkers who just had their lives upended?

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Post by palata »

nicce wrote: post #24
type_Ben_struct wrote: post #2

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People have only that much power we give to them. If everyone stops using Twitter/X, it is nothing. Nobody buys Teslas - it is nothing. The list goes on since his # in wealthy ranks defines his position. Just make it drop.

The scary part is that most US citizens seem to support Mump. I think Trump has never been that high in popularity, right?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by sirsinsalot »

scott_w wrote: post #29
mordae wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There never was any demand for free speech from him. He just wanted to advance his fascist agenda and used whatever means he had at his disposal.

While you’re correct as to his intentions, it’s still important to point out his hypocrisy as he called himself “a free speech absolutist,” and claimed to want Twitter to be part of that vision. He explicitly called left wing and right wing views as things he wants. Yes, we know it was all lies but not putting out the evidence allows people like Musk and his acolytes to make it the new truth without a fight.

It's pretty crazy. If you say something that offends him (like perhaps the financial abandonment of his kids) then you're banned.

Free speech eh.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by BSDobelix »

kypro wrote: post #107
sounddetective wrote: post #68

Everyone reading this -- sign up for Bluesky, help it build up a larger network effect, so it can outcompete X. It already has 30m users.

Do they believe free in free speech, or will I also be banned/blocked from saying things there?

>>Do they believe free in free speech

No they don't, blue-sky belongs to the former twitter owner, aka THE BUBBLE ;)

BTW: He was not welcomed at FOSDEM because he is billionaire, when a movement eats itself ;)

https://drewdevault.com/2025/01/16/2025-01-16-No-Billionares...

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