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Post by artistic_regard »

thereddaikon wrote: post #58
mjburgess wrote: post #20

The security and intelligence apparatus made bet big that they could prevent a second trump election, after quite successfully destabilising the first -- they failed. And now the very system of unaccountable executive power which has been built up, is now being used against the executive itself. This makes me increasingly concerned for a similar turn of events in the UK (ie., given the many actions of the UK state to…

The difference in the UK is, there is no recourse. It's actually why America exists as a state to begin with. They have parliamentary supremacy and no enshrined checks and balances against parliament. Nor do they have a formal constitution. And the populace is disarmed. A sufficiently united parliament can in theory do what it wants. The only practical risk they have is a coordinated coup by the military. The US syst…

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by justin66 »

cbeach wrote: post #46
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

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> A majority of people voted for it

A plurality at best, not a majority.

> If you want the return of wasteful, unaccountable and corrupt government spending on ideological goals

I just want the return of stereotypes and platitudes. Why isn't anyone representing me?

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by dqv »

cbeach wrote: post #79
EGreg wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the name of “cutting costs”, they can do anything? Divert funds to whatever they want? Explain how taking down open scientific and health data sets is “improving efficiency and transparency”. I kind of liked data.gov as a step in the RIGHT direction for government transparency! Elon never mentions those things, of course. He has a direct connection to the people, bigger than FDR’s radio which helped him bypass the…

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Censoring the proof of the ideological datasets (that is, the datasets themselves) to prove they were ideological. Seriously?

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by cbovis »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #120

And ... there we go - flagged by Musk's tech bros again. HN is starting to feel like X -- I've deleted my X account, and might have to do the same here. I've now switched my primary HN link from the home page to /active, where, thankfully, flagged posts still show up.

> I've now switched my primary HN link from the home page to /active, where, thankfully, flagged posts still show up.

Great tip, thanks!

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by nickthegreek »

cbeach wrote: post #46
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

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Mandate is not clear (4th lowest popular vote win ever). Trump did not receive a majority of the popular vote either. He received a Plurality.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by throw_pm23 »

diggan wrote: post #128
throw_pm23 wrote: post #123

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Yes, and the second most stable and peaceful moment was 1913 when people were celebrating a half-century of continuous growth and prosperity. I think I'll pass your introduction, thanks.

As I said, Americans and Europeans clearly care about different things :) Your sole focus on "growth" and "prosperity" makes this crystal clear and will make a good example of this in future discussions.

You may value other things like peace or a societal safety net or good healthcare or plenty of free time for your hobbies, etc. but it will be hard to maintain all these without growth and prosperity; like it or not, these things were paid for by VW selling cars abroad and the US Army protecting you. Europe is facing a rude awakening.

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by martin_a »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #92
lenerdenator wrote: post #12

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We'll look back on it as we do all of the other times people got away with things they shouldn't have gotten away with while holding the power of the state. I'll also add that there are absolutely people in Europe who aspire to see this kind of thing happen there, and that in some cases, it already has. See: Orban, Brexit, Le Pen, AfD, etc... and that of course doesn't touch on what happens in less-Western European c…

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> What seems unique at this stage, [...] is the speed and brutality

I think this is especially concerning. From all the reports this whole "process" looks like "shoot first, ask questions later" and I think that's not how democracies should work in regards to anything.

While the goals might be very favorable and welcome, the process and way to get there has to live up to high standards, too.

edit: And I think you can have speed and a momentum in doing things without going in like in a Counterstrike match.

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Post by cbeach »

Propelloni wrote: post #81
cbeach wrote: post #46

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How is voicing an opinion and taking civil action "subverting democracy" now? It's not like people are storming the capitol, is it? They are organizing and protesting against unpopular policies in good old fashioned democratic ways.

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by [deleted] »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #97
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Isn't this what you guys have the second amendment for? To secure a free state?

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by croes »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #113
croes wrote: post #66

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The US fell in a month much deeper than the EU in a decade. Like I said the EU falls slower.

It may fall slower but it also keeps falling... US' GDP is now 80% higher than EU's. The usual retort is that Europeans are not chasing money and prefer to have good quality of life, healthcare, etc. but this misses the key thing that if your income falls behind little by little at some point you will no longer be able to afford those things... we're already seeing it.

The usual resort is that the EU fears debt.

Just compare US debt rising to US GDP rising.

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