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How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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> We can support musicians we like by adding them to our personal playlists and playing their music every day. We can also just buy their albums like ye olden times. Buy tracks for $1.29 like ye slightly less olden times! If you have disposable income, buy albums! It's easy and also fun.

I don’t do any of the streaming services, but the bugginess around owned music in the Apple Music player is getting seriously frustrating.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Thats because there is no answer. Marx and all of the people who developed his theories after him have exhaustively and scientifically proved this. That's really whats happening: its not that people dont have an answer is that they're not admitting to the exploitative nature of private capital accumulation. The main internal contradiction of capitalism leads to the system creating large amounts of wealth but also equ…

So communism it’s the answer cuz Marx?

its funny, it seems the point of this kind of response is to imply that my analysis is naive or overly simplistic but there are hundreds of thousands of pages of math and science and philosophy on the topic. im not just making this up, im simply explaining why its happening. these smug responses never seem to actually engage with anything except simplistic propaganda substituted in for the actual argument being made.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Does anyone ever comply with these "As listeners we must band together" things? I couldn't care less. I like the lo-fi sound myself and put on some Nujabes while in the kitchen. It's a good time. But whether any specific artist gets to play or not doesn't concern me that much. I've found that single artists rarely preserve the feel so much as ones in a genre.

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Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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AI seems like a scapegoat here when I think the real answer is simply that it was a tired genre that died out like many music fads over the years. (Everyone could learn how to make these with a 10 minute youtube tutorial which flooded the market, independent of AI.)

Sounds like u just dont like the genre

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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I would highly recommend that folks read Liz Pelly's Mood Machine , which is referenced here via the Harper's excerpt, not just because it shows artists' perspectives on the long tail model that tech pitched to them, but because it can be read as an indictment of the platform model that increasingly dictates how we engage with art and society at large. Pelly's account really gets to the heart of the problem: these pl…

I will read that but... I'm so tired of this anti-Spotify crap. Artists and listeners are free not to use it, just as they are free not to use Tidal, SoundCloud, bandcamp, YouTube, etc. It's a platform and the market is free. If it's not working out for you find a different way to market yourself. It's not like top 40 or the Grammys are fair either. Art isn't a fair industry and never will be. How many amazing artist…

People are also free not to have a FB account. Doesn't mean that we shouldn't criticize the problems that FB has created, amplified or perpetuated through its practices.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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post #134

> We can support musicians we like by adding them to our personal playlists and playing their music every day. We can also just buy their albums like ye olden times. Buy tracks for $1.29 like ye slightly less olden times! If you have disposable income, buy albums! It's easy and also fun.

A growing number of artists don't make albums anymore, either physical or something that can be purchased. I don't understand, but their choice. However, I only buy albums (preferably physically, will accept flac download), so they won't be getting money from me.

I mean yeah a growing number cause the internet let’s u discover more coming up artists but I’d say nearly all established ones do.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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> For Japanese soundtrack producer Nujabes, the “lofi” sound wasn’t an aesthetic choice. It was an artifact of creating such forward thinking music with the dusty equipment from 20 years ago. I trying to figure out where the author got this from? Audio hardware/software hasn't changed that much in 20 years, and Nujabes' lofi aesthetic seems intentional. According to Wikipedia, it originated from an effect button on R…

> I trying to figure out where the author got this from? I laughed at this too. Oh yeah, back in 2005 there was no way to get good sound from that dusty old equipment. I mean, some of the best sounding albums of all time are 50+ years old.

> I mean, some of the best sounding albums of all time are 50+ years old

That is.. arguable

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

#148

AI is best stated as a tool to permit wealth to access skill without skill being permitted to access wealth. I've been called a Luddite so many times on this website asking basic questions of how in a world where your labor is required in order for you to earn a living these entire reams of people are meant to continue living, and nobody has an answer.

Would an AGI that is “intelligent” enough to replace any kind of human labor deserve independent personhood and remuneration, or would they just be the perfect slave to capital?

The second thing.

Also AGI is a floating signifier thats going to mean whatever is useful to marketers once they've used up the easier ones.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Do you have any proof that radio DJs are less prevalent now than in the past? I'm having trouble finding evidence of that.

There are 33k broadcast stations in the USA [0], and 11k people employed as disc jockeys [1] There were 12k broadcast stations in the 1980s [2] Given we can assume little to no automation, or at least a DJ human making sure the equipment didn’t break, and 8 hour shifts, that suggests 36k people were employed as radio DJs in the 1980s if we only count their time on air, assuming a 24 hour broadcast. If we include thei…

Excellent work. Doesn't touch on the great change that the internet brought, which admittedly isn't clear from my original question :(

Wonder if those Zippia estimates include internet radio. Imagine it misses quite a bit given how difficult it would be to break down streamers on every platform.

Re: How Spotify Killed Lo-Fi Hip Hop

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Without Spotify and the rest of the streaming services most of the people would just pirate music. I would probably spend less on music than I do now on Spotify per year.

They also wouldn't know about many of the artists in the first place.

It’s trivial to discover new music on platforms like bandcamp, soundcloud, YouTube or even Spotify and then go and pay for the music where it reaches the artists.
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