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They can change that
That's not what matters. What matters is whether or not they can change it in time.
I think he means that Microsoft can change that requirement.
Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
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Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
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Or Apple, or Google, or Amazon. Steam is, really, just an app store. And that's becoming part of the platform in the modern world. Frankly I think the sanest option here would be for MS to simply buy Valve and turn them into the "Windows App Store". But I can't imagine that happening given all the internal churn that would be required to eliminate all their existing online purchase junk.
Pretty much everything MS buys gets ruined, so I'd rather that didn't happen.
They've messed up some, but they've also hit grand slams with others. MS-DOS comes to mine. PowerPoint is another. Hotmail. Bungie. FAST Search.
All of those are much more successful than they were before Microsoft acquired them.
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I've never had an issue with throttled downloads. Doesn't your ISP have a Steam mirror? Also, Counter-Strike: GO is being released on Aug 21. http://store.steampowered.com/app/1800/
The last game i purchased from Steam was roughly a little over a year ago and up to that point any game downloads would take days. I'm not on any kind of uber-fast connection (10mb) and never had any issues with any issues streaming or downloading content from any other service. P.S. I have heard of CS:GO which is nothing more than old CS:Source with improved environment. It isn't a bad game by any means, but it is l…
The general feedback from the CS community has been either that GO is a good improvement, or that it is too different to its predecessors (Source and even more so the original CS, 1.6).
Obviously BF and CoD offer single player gaming, but for multiplayer there's a good case to be made (and one that often is made) that CS out-does both of them in terms of game play.
Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
#144I think the headline of the article is pretty misleading as he means that Windows 8 is a catastrophe for Steam because of the Windows 8 app store. Looks like everyone's upvoting the article because they seem to think that Gabe meant that Windows 8 will be a failure. Instead of having to go through Steam's distribution, games will have the option of going directly to the Windows 8 app store and get featured there, not…
Steam's cut is 30%. However, for that 30% you get to update your game whenever you want, and virtually as often as you want. By that I mean they don't impose any direct limits on how often you update, but the general rule is no more than once a week aside from hotfixes and the like. I'm not aware of any digital marketplace that gives you this much control, especially as video game updates will often be hundreds of me…
The windows app store gives unlimited free updates. It's only xbla for Xbox where they charge for updates.
Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
The headline is misleading. He was talking very much, from his vested interest point of view. He was not dismissing the quality or value of win8 for consumers. But he is allowed to be a bit upset: Steam is effectively not allowed on Metro. And there was loyalty between Valve and Microsoft. In general, he dislikes the verticalisation in the market; how consumer devices will all be (media,game,app) consoles. But to see…
Nitpick: without Steam and without any equivalent of it, PC gaming would have (probably) died 5 years ago. Your sentence is like saying that without Internet Explorer, we would still be paying for internet browsers. It's praising Microsoft for what it did and mysteriously assuming that in absence of it, no one else would bring the cost of browsers down. This is my nitpick with "what if X didn't exist" scenarios: peop…
Linux brought a large new demographic (hobbyists, students) to Unix at a time that it was expensive, little used and dying. The Linux movement, as opposed to the Linux software, was a true revolution and not easily replaced. Effective movements are a lot harder to build than effective software.
Another counterexample would be the internet itself. It could very easily have gone wrong and we would have been stuck with the likes of Compuserve and AOL.
Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
#146I use Linux. I am on Ubuntu right now. I just wish I could figure out how to get the Radeon/whatever graphics drivers right on this Lenovo Ideapad. I gave up. I am rooting for Linux, WebGL, and other stuff. Whatever can help take down Windows is great. If Windows can actually take down Windows, even better.
The radeon driver is open source. It should just work, assuming it can work. (Maybe it doesn't support your card currently?) If you are talking about fglrx then I forsee nothing but pain for you. I doubt even Valve's encouragement can improve that situation.
Its working now! I finally figured out what the issue was, thanks!
Problem was that awhile back I think that Chrome wouldn't run WebGL and I thought it was a driver issue, so I installed the fglrx crap, which not only didn't make Chrome run WebGL but it completely screwed me, and I never properly removed it until now.
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Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
#148When Vista came out, and everyone hated it, a few people noted that MS OS's alternated hit/miss over the years, stretching way back. Almost as if they were trying out ideas in an experimental release, and then consolidated it into a stable release.
Since then, we've had Windows 7, which seemed pretty solid, and now Windows 8, which is a "catastrophe" - continuing the hit/miss pattern.
Re: Gabe Newell Wants to Support Linux, Because Windows 8 is a 'Catastrophe'
#149I'm all for linux support, but clearly he's more worried about a future with microsoft taking their digital delivery business, not usability.
Or Apple, or Google, or Amazon. Steam is, really, just an app store. And that's becoming part of the platform in the modern world. Frankly I think the sanest option here would be for MS to simply buy Valve and turn them into the "Windows App Store". But I can't imagine that happening given all the internal churn that would be required to eliminate all their existing online purchase junk.
It might be sane for Microsoft, but it would be an abysmal turn of events for Valve.
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I would not go that far.
The point is that people are concerned about shortcomings in the beta because they do not have confidence in Microsoft to fix those problems. Whether that lack of confidence is justified or not is another matter.
No, the point is the Release Preview has been out for a month (months?) and has fixed a lot of the issues that are being mentioned here.