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Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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Not at all because they are all tech directors or high level programmers who have been paid well to do it for decades.

Yeah, that's not a true measure of intelligence.

I don't disagree but they also don't display any of the symptoms laid out in the original post you are replying to.

Also I was replying to a person who signed up specifically to make a single troll post so I replied in kind.

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This is such an obvious problem to anyone who is above the age of 25. All of my friends who were real big into weed in high school are all pretty bad at remembering things, most work dead end jobs and are generally unmotivated The ones who started the youngest are in rough shape mentally. Every single one of my friends who still lives with their parents smokes multiple times daily. Out of all of them, only one is suc…

Interesting your only metirc of success is how much money someone has.

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This from the newsatlas.com privacy policy. Sad how "privacy" policies these days don't even try. "Yep we're selling all your data."

As for the study, it doesn't seem confident in its own findings, admitting to various shortcomings of the data in conclusion. But in general it should be no surprise that "heavy use" of cannabis is asking for trouble at any age.

Some will get away with it, similar to functioning alcoholics who still excel in their work. But for most of us, my opinion is to avoid heavy use of any drug, including alcohol. Cannabis is more enjoyable and intellectually or creatively insightful with occasional use anyway, otherwise it's more haze than high.

Even if the worst that happens is you have a 10 year zone-out where you do very little, you still lost that 10 years. There is a small exception: you really wanted to zone out for 10 years!

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cannabis is pretty safe for the average person, even heavy users. it's not good for you, but i think most of the effects like this are explained by selection effects. unhappy people use it to self-medicate. however, using cannabis comes with a very big tail risk. if you are susceptible to psychosis, cannabis can cause it or make it much more severe. this is undoubtedly causal. people take all kinds of worse risks in…

When I was younger I had a bout of insomnia and somebody procured me some wee. I did not know how strong it was and had a psychedelic trip instead. It was terrifying, I thought it was the end for me. Nobody seems to believe me that weed could give you psychedelic visuals.

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One aspect I’m curious about, especially given the younger cohort, is the causal directionality here - especially when I was younger, I knew a lot of people who were self-medicating with cannabis for things like anxiety and ADHD, which also have effects on working memory and executive function. I’ve known enough heavy users long enough that I do believe there’s long term cognitive effects (whether directly or indirec…

I've consumed far more than my fair share of cannabis, starting at age 19. I'm also almost certainly ADHD (according to friend who's a psychiatrist, but says I'm untestable), and have a meaninglessly high IQ.

I've noticed that amongst very slow people, more _seem_ to have started smoking dope at a very young age (9 to 12). The idea that pot could be very bad for adolescents in particular is not a new one. I certainly feel slowed down by it, although as the study says, it's working memory that's affected.

I sometimes wonder what life would have been like if I'd met weed at say 30yo. Would the final stages of "maturing" have played out very differently?

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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Turns out the recreational drugs were never good for you. Is there a single recreational popular >100M user drug that’s good for most? Maybe coffee? It’s a shame there are so many with reduced brain function and IQ. Next thing will be shocking studies showing regular shroom usage is bad too, lol. It is a shame we are in a post truth society. People burying their heads in the sand.

Basically everything performance enhancing is bad because that means use is rewarded yet there's always the cost. This explains why not-yet-banned-for-centuries substances like alcohol, coffee, tobacco, sugar, salt, skydiving, whatever, are preferred over drugs; use is detrimental, so those problems self correct to some degree.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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I have plenty of anecdotes in the other direction. Perhaps there are other factors involved. Weed isn't going to give you a leg up in life, but it's not a guarantee that you're going to end up in a dead end job and live with your parents forever either. Painting it as such reminds me of D.A.R.E.

D.A.R.E. was right

Putting the affects of marijuana abuse in the same category as meth or heroin is dishonest and dangerous. It destroyed their credibility.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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My anecdote can beat up yours :D

As opposed to data? What data? Imagine how hard this is to study: - can we identify groups who regularly use and don’t use - and isolate other lifestyle factors - and follow them for years of the life - and get them to accurately report data - and determine which life outcomes can be attributed to cannabis use No study like that is going to be compelling. The anecdote is going to be just as useful in your personal li…

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