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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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At the same time he is threatening to tariff China 10% due to their responsibility for fentanyl, lol

Fentanyl wasn't big yet when Silk Road was around. And besides, people were buying straight from China off the clearnet

I think they're pointing out the hypocrisy of wanting to crack down on drugs while doing this.

I see so many Trump adjacent folks demanding we lock up drug dealers, deport them, whatever. But they want to let this one go.

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Will he get his possesions back then? 50,676 bitcoins, today valued at 5,3 billion USD. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-h...

Hey may have other wallets...

with a name like DPR id have to assume its buried treasure

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

#146

I would find this easier to celebrate if it was a commutation and not a pardon, or if it was a pardon that went hand in hand with a change in the laws he broke.

> a pardon that went hand in hand with a change in the laws he broke

Trump doesn't have the power to unilaterally change laws (fortunately!)

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Genuine question: Of all the people to pardon, why him?

Presumably musk pushed for it. Not sure who else in/near the administration would even have him on their radar

Whether or not he was the sole or even primary reason, he knew about it beforehand as seen by his tweet last night saying it was coming soon. Love him or hate him, it's a bit concerning that he has that level of access IMO.

The tweet:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1881524296386031892

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Absolute no brainer, he should be celebrated. Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform. Of course if we had less draconian drug policy, it wouldn't be necessary but here we are.

> Countless lives were saved via the harm reduction effect of a peer reviewed, reputation based platform. The basic immorality/pointlessness of the war on drugs aside, I don't know how you can assert this: it's not like there's a chain of provenance, and there's no particular guarantee that whatever grade of pure drugs was sold on Silk Road is the same purity that ended up in peoples' bodies. My understanding of the…

Anecdotally, Planet Money looked into this years ago and their reporting was that as far as they could tell, drugs on Silk Road weren't less safe than street drugs. Most of them were likely "fell off the truck" samples from the original manufacturers being sold by people with an in on the supply, but no otherwise-easy access to an out on the demand.

Their observation was that reputation mattered on SR a lot and a well-kept reputation was valuable at scale in a way that it isn't for being a street-corner pusher looking to stretch your buck by cutting your supply with adulterants. The smart play was to provide a high-quality product at a reasonable price (the latter being the easiest part since they were bypassing the obscene markup of official channels).

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

#150

At the same time he is threatening to tariff China 10% due to their responsibility for fentanyl, lol

Fentanyl wasn't big yet when Silk Road was around. And besides, people were buying straight from China off the clearnet

I think serious jail for running an illegal drug marketplace is good, even if he used lots of neat tech to do so..
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