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Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by mostlysimilar »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #102
rofo1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not building anything. Perhaps you need to study history and see what happened. There is no distinction of evil between the communists in USSR and NAZI Germany. They were both clear evil. I thank God they are both history now and we should not forget it, ever.

What? One moment, you're defending Musk's Nazi salute and the next you're stating that "we should not forget"? Not forgetting implies that we must NEVER tolerate Nazi sympathisers and Nazi ideology. Musk has been promoting Nazi/extreme right-wing ideologies for quite a while now and his latest stunt is to perform a Nazi salute which insults the memories of everyone that fought against the Nazis in WWII. What specific…

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by Terretta »

aithrowawaycomm wrote: post #121
jampekka wrote: post #32

Good that China has caught up US in tech, so at least us Europeans can escape the US oligarchical censorship. Not looking great for those left behind the great firewall of Muskerberg. When will PG fall in line?

My concern about PG isn't that he's "falling in line" so much as ripping the mask off and embracing right-wing authoritarianism: So what do we do now? Wokeness is already in retreat. Obviously we should help it along. What's the best way to do that? And more importantly, how do we avoid a third outbreak? After all, it seemed to be dead once, but came back worse than ever. In fact there's an even more ambitious goal:…

>> Is there a way to prevent any similar outbreak of aggressively performative moralism in the future — not just a third outbreak of political correctness, but the next thing like it?

Of course there is.

Remove dissent from media, discomfort from libraries, and debate from schools.

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by abenga »

AnonHP wrote: post #64

I understand that this post is flagged because it can start flame wars and “not curious conversations”, but I’m curious about what people here from different parts of the world are seeing for these search terms. If censorship is indeed happening either due to manual flags or “AI” algorithms, people need to know what’s happening and if this is just anecdotal or geography specific or could be spreading to other countri…

Kenya: was blocking #democrat a couple of hours ago.

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Post by gigatexal »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #26
gigatexal wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s especially offputting is the media not covering Elon’s Nazi salute

> salute Salutes. He did it more than once in that speech. In full, hand to chest and all.

Nearly half a trillion dollars of net worth must make him feel untouchable. The SEC can’t touch him when he says “funding secured” (it wasn’t). Nor can they do anything to him when he secretly bought Twitter shares.

Because he’s so engrained with the government he’s untouchable. SpaceX is doing stuff NASA only dreams of. Nobody built out starlink to the volume that he did and so now he can play king maker in war zones like Ukraine.

He’s got huge conflicts of interest with China.

The man is basically an asset of foreign governments and is here sweing the seeds of hate on his mega platform.

It used to be nobody was above the law but then billionaires became too powerful. How often do I think about Rome? A shit ton more now except I think more about the fall of Rome than the golden era.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

So Instagram definitely created two segregated lists of hashtags based on politics, and intentionally implemented SOMETHING in the algorithm differently between the two, messed up and revealed that they are trying to do SOMETHING differently between the two. Now that the tags are 'restored' the question is what is Insta actually trying to accomplish behind the scenes?

Re: Meta Censoring '#Democrat' on Instagram

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

Aeolun wrote: post #51
argsnd wrote: post #5

#fuckbiden works, #fucktrump gets censored. They better have a good explanation for why this is a bug.

That can’t possibly be a bug…

They created two segregated lists on purpose. They implemented a change that only affected one list. They accidentally had a bug that exposed that they were trying to do something. They question now is what were they originally trying to accomplish?

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Post by vladms »

ffsm8 wrote: post #112
vladms wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is censorship for you personally? I don't have a clear definition in mind (because I think is hard), but something along the lines of "the ones with overwhelming power should not be able to impose what ideas are spread". Why I think is hard it's because multiple rules can be made to make it impossible to spread ideas: talking loudly in the street => you disturb the neighbors; you send mails with pamphlets => it'…

I completely agree that it's a very hard topic from the perspective of actually maintaining a healthy social media site. Most of them have a vision for their platform, i.e. town hall for Twitter, family and friend conversations for Facebook etc. To adhere to this image they filter out spam etc. now, filtering out obnoxious content just becomes one more rule and thus the slippery slope begins. But to answer your quest…

I have doubts the effects would be as envisioned. There might be negative social/biological traits (ex: fear is stronger than happiness; low threshold for believing things) that amplified by the exponential effect of such a network can have disastrous results. We had tyrants, cult leaders and other nuts that made enough damage without such a tool.

Maybe the network should also limit interaction and exposure. It's fine if you get more interaction than you could do in real life, but I find worrying to have one person followed by tens of millions ... (and even if it was the case before with newspapers, I don't think it was ideal either)

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

rofo1 wrote: post #42
gigatexal wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s especially offputting is the media not covering Elon’s Nazi salute

Do you really believe this? Sincerely and honestly? You believe Elon Musk is somehow showing support for the National-Socialist party of the German working class? How is it possible to get to this level? Truly amazing.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Jean-Paul Sartre

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

rofo1 wrote: post #58
computerthings wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You believe Elon Musk is somehow showing support for the National-Socialist party of the German working class? No, which is why nobody but people who want to downplay say this stuff. This is the second comment of this kind I saw. He's doing the Hitler salute, with a snarl, once to the crowd and once to Trump. He has no clue who Hitler is or what he did, just like he has no clue what RPC are, or what item level requ…

What is there to downplay? This is why engagement hunters on Twitter/X.com made a side by side comparison of "Democrats doing Nazi salute" over the years, and there are like 10 pictures there doing the same exact thing. It would be as bizarre to say those people were supporting NAZI Germany, too.

10 out of context pictures are not the exact same as video of someone doing a full on Nazi salute in 100% form from start to end, twice. Show me a video of a Dem doing that...
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