LLM based agents as Dungeon Masters • Hacker News Board

Re: LLM based agents as Dungeon Masters

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Post by rexpop » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:02 AM UTC

alasdairking wrote: post #105

A good use for this is people wanting to try an RPG, but not having a bunch of people to do that with. A parent wanting to try out this D&D thing so he or she can run it with the kids, for example.

Not having a bunch of people to do that with is solved by going out and creating relationships and communities. This is the basis of democracy, of society.

It's a tremendous loss for our species if we lose the impetus to connect. Do your kids a REAL favor, and build them a community—a SOCIETY—that they can join.

Re: LLM based agents as Dungeon Masters

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Post by rexpop » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 5:05 AM UTC

mog_dev wrote: post #72

lowsong wrote: post #71

I am baffled as to why anyone would want this, or anything like it. Sure, it's a cool technical demo. But... the point of D&D is a social game played with others. Even if you play a D&D-like video game such as Baldur's Gate 3 (which I'd argue is a fundamentally different experience to playing a tabletop RPG anyway), you're experiencing a world and a story that someone else has crafted. What's the point of replacing t…

I imagine for people like me who do not have anyone nearby willing to play D&D

Find someone! Make someone! Go online!

Dear god, it's crucial that adults be capable of creating and maintaining relationships. If it's impossible then, well, that's hell on earth.

Go out and make a new relationship! Do you live in Antarctica? And, if you live somewhere where new relationships can't be made, my god, get out of there! Go, go now! Go somewhere you're allowed to be human!

Re: LLM based agents as Dungeon Masters

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Post by michaelcampbell » Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 9:36 PM UTC

moralestapia wrote: post #53

michaelcampbell wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And all tautologies are tautological.

At least make an effort to understand what a tautology is.

Better advice has never been given, but the direction is, sadly, incorrect.

Re: LLM based agents as Dungeon Masters

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Post by gwern » Tue, Jan 21, 2025, 12:50 AM UTC

someone3876 wrote: post #103

gwern wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think you're going to find an LLM with a large enough context window to have a meaningfully involving story spanning multiple sessions. First, you don't need much of any context window because you can finetune the LLM. Don't mistake specific engineering choices and tradeoffs and deployment convenience for intrinsic limitations of the technology. Second, LLMs like Gemini now have context windows of millions…

Have you actually used Gemini? I use it a lot for translation, and its context window is more like 150k tokens, rather than the 2M context window they say it has.

My apologies to all the D&D sessions which take more than 150k tokens, then.