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EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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#141

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What about wireless spectrum? Should we just give access to spectrum to everyone who wants it? Your radio, cell phone and wireless Internet would stop working within weeks, I'm sure. Sometime monopoly is not only good, but necessary.

That the status quo for RF spectrum is that of government granted monopoly in most of the world is not evidence that this is a necessary way to operate. In fact there have been numerous proposals to change the regulation of important RF ranges into a more typical commons based usage model. e.g. the "whitespace" wireless broadband systems that are still fighting their way through the FCC regulatory quagmire in the US.…

I'm not entirely sure that we have locked out people without billions of dollars. I followed closely and commented on the low power FM rollout (I managed a college radio station at the time) and though it wasn't perfect, I do feel it was a major step. It allowed many small broadcasters to enter the market that would not otherwise have had an opportunity.

I don't have anything against whitespace spectrum (though I do feel it becomes a shoving match of who has the biggest tower), but there are certain applications that demand a monopolized spectrum, such as cell phones. If providers were not able to provide national, dedicated networks, the cell phone industry as we know it could not exist. This is not to say that cell phones wouldn't exist (perhaps just a patchwork of regional providers), but the level of seamless service that consumers have come to demand would not. Even a patchwork of regional carriers would require regionalized monopolies. Why would you go to the trouble and cost of building a tower if someone can just build another, larger one next to it?

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#142
Jews are atheist since holocaust--hate God.

God says... 15177

offerings.

29:12 And on the fifteenth day of the seventh month ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work, and ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: 29:13 And ye shall offer a burnt offering, a sacrifice made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD; thirteen young bullocks, two rams, and fourteen lambs of the first year; they shall be without blemish: 29:14 And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil, three tenth deals unto every bullock of the thirteen bullocks, two tenth deals to each ram of the two rams, 29:15 And a several tenth deal to each lamb of the fourteen lambs: 29:16 And one kid of the goats for a sin offering; beside the continual burnt offering, his meat offering, and his drink offering.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#143
post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I'd agree if IDL were meant to be a serious policy organization or directly lobby Congress. But that isn't the case - it's a way of applying grass roots pressure by making people like your average redditor aware of issues and motivated to do something about them. That's the target, so thus the geek pop style of communication. Wholly appropriate for what they're actually trying to achieve.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#144
Cripes, they've still got that shitty name.

Anyone from the United Kingdom will immediately associate the name with the English Defence League, a violent far-right Islamophobic street protest movement.

As branding ideas go, having a name that has that connotation is a really dumb choice.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#145
post #29

This part makes me uncomfortable: > Our organization and network helped to defeat SOPA/PIPA [..] The Internet Defense League continues this work. But it depends on its members' donations It then goes on to ask for a donation to support staff who 'work behind the scenes'. I think to people who are unfamiliar with what happen around the community action with SOPA and PIPA this section can be interpreted as the Internet…

Well, Wikipedia's shutdown played a pretty significant part in the SOPA/PIPA action... and Wikimedia has decided to not take part in the Internet Defense League.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Interne...

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the Internet Defense League just an American thing?

Don't think so. The liberty cap has been a symbol of emancipation from slavery in Western culture since ancient times. There's a statue of Columbia, goddess of liberty, atop the dome of Congress. She was designed with a liberty cap, but was created too close to the American civil war for the south to accept the symbolism.

Thank you for the explanation. I couldn't find a nice succinct explanation in my quick google search.
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