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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Nvidia literally markets H100 as a "GPU" ( https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/h100/ ) even though it wasn't built for graphics and I doubt there's a single person or company using one to render any kind of graphics. GPU is just a recognizable term for the product category, and will keep being used.

General Purpose Unit.

General Processing Unit?

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It’s 3 extrapolated frames not interpolated. So would be reduced lag at the expense of greater pop-in. There’s also the new reflex 2 which uses reprojection based on mouse motion to generate frames that should also help, but likely has the same drawback.

> It’s 3 extrapolated frames not interpolated. Do you have a source for this? Doesn't sound like a very good idea. Nor do I think there's additional latency mind you, but not because it's not interpolation.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-...

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It's a shame to see they max out at just 32GB, for that price in 2025 you'd be hoping for a lot more, especially with Apple Silicon - while not nearly as fast - being very usable with 128GB+ for LLMs for $6-7k USD (comes with a free laptop too ;))

Just isn't comparable speed wise for anything apart from LLM and in the long run you can double up and swap out Nvidia cards while Mac you need to rebuy the whole machine.

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32GB of GDDR7 at 1.8TB/sec for $2000, best of luck to the gamers trying to buy one of those while AI people are buying them by the truckload. Presumably the pro hardware based on the same silicon will have 64GB, they usually double whatever the gaming cards have.

At what point do we stop calling them graphics cards?

How long until a "PC" isn't CPU + GPU but just a GPU? I know CPUs are good for some things that GPUs aren't and vice versa but... it really kind of makes you wonder.

Press the power button, boot the GPU?

Surely a terrible idea, and I know system-on-a-chip makes this more confusing/complicated (like Apple Silicon, etc.)

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Pricing for the next generation might be somewhat better if Nvidia switches to Samsung for 2nm like the rumors suggest: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-sam... Coincidentally, the 3090 was made using Samsung's 8nm process. You would be going from one Samsung fabricated GPU to another.

NVidia's pricing isn't based on how much it takes to produce their cards, but since they have no competition, it's purely based on how much consumers are grudgingly willing to pay up. If AMD continues to sleep, they'll sale these cards for the same price, even if they could produce them for free.

AMD is not sleeping. They publicly admitted that they threw in the towel- they have exited the high end market.

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From all the communication I’ve had with Nvidia, the prevailing sentiment was that the 4090 was an 8K card, that happened to be good for AI due to vram requirements from 8K gaming. However, I’m a AAA gamedev CTO and they might have been telling me what the card means to me .

Seems kinda silly to make an 8K video card when ... nobody on the planet has an 8K screen

> Seems kinda silly to make a 4K video card when ... nobody on the planet has a 4K screen.

Someone else probably said that years ago when everyone was rocking 1080/1440p screens.

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I will be astonished if I'll be able to get a 5090 due to availability. The 5080's comparative lack of memory is a buzzkill -- 16 GB seems like it's going to be a limiting factor for 4k gaming. Does anyone know what these might cost in the US after the rumored tariffs?

4k gaming is dumb. I watched a LTT video that came out today where Linus said he primarily uses gaming monitors and doesn't mess with 4k.

Nonsense 4k gaming was inevitable as soon as 4k TVs got mainstream.

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Well, modern games + modern cards can't even do 4k at high fps and no dlss. 8k story is totally fairy tale. Maybe "render at 540p, display at 8k"-kind of thing? P.S. Also, VR. For VR you need 2x4k at 90+ stable fps. There's (almost) no vr games though

> modern games + modern cards can't even do 4k at high fps What "modern games" and "modern cards" are you specifically talking about here? There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example.

This - latest Call of Duty game on my (albeit water cooled) 3080TI founders edition saw frame rates in the 90-100fps running natively at 4k (no DLSS).

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post #137

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Well, modern games + modern cards can't even do 4k at high fps and no dlss. 8k story is totally fairy tale. Maybe "render at 540p, display at 8k"-kind of thing? P.S. Also, VR. For VR you need 2x4k at 90+ stable fps. There's (almost) no vr games though

> modern games + modern cards can't even do 4k at high fps What "modern games" and "modern cards" are you specifically talking about here? There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example.

> There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example.

Not when you turn on ray tracing.

Also 60fps is pretty low, certainly isn't "high fps" anyway

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