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Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

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Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely fair when you're evaluating a potential fiduciary. I personally don't consider small regional banks secure beyond the FDIC limits for the same reason. But one of the "big guys" is fine as they're too big to fail.

> As part of the agreements with the United States Attorney’s Offices for the Central District of California and the Western District of North Carolina, the Commercial Litigation Branch of the Civil Division, and the Securities and Exchange Commission, Wells Fargo admitted that it collected millions of dollars in fees and interest to which the Company was not entitled, harmed the credit ratings of certain customers,…

You're misunderstanding what the benefit of being large is, and what the risk of being small is.

I totally accept and understand that large businesses do all sorts of shady and nefarious things. What I don't expect them to do is lose all my money with no recourse. And that's not just the case because they're big, but the regulatory regimes are set up to deal with these known entities. The reason I've personally become wary of fintechs recently is because many of them want to "move fast and break things", and think they can offload all of the regulatory responsibilities to partner institutions. Like, if you're such a great fintech, why not open as an actual bank or as an actual broker dealer (note, I'm not saying that's the case here, as they are an RIA, but I don't know the protection that is entailed by that designation).

When you say "Madoff had $65B AUM", he also had like 10 employees, which is why he was able to hide the fraud for so long.

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#142

I'm unsure how you are proposing to build a sustainable business with such low fees. Assuming you need say 5 full time employees to run something like this somewhat robustly, and back of the envelope your expenses are say 2 million a year (which doesn't afford you to pay anyone particularly well), you'll need a 160k users (!) and you are only breaking even. And you have no chance in hell to provide decent support for…

I think by going only after people looking for long term buy and hold, the overhead drops dramatically.

Dealing with traders is where all the nightmare stories come from.

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#143

I saw the "Your Money is Secure" section, but after things like the Synapse fiasco, I would like to get confirmation from you. It says my money would be SIPC insured, which means if anything goes missing (obviously not through loss of equity value, but through missing funds or a ledger bug), I get my money back, up to the SIPC limit, right? I just want to ensure this isn't the same situation with fintechs that say yo…

Yup. Zero interest until there is a very clear answer here.

Zero interest, just like my bank account.

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, the old "we'll buy stocks for you and then turn around and lend them out to short sellers that actively want you to lose money. Promise we care about you!" I do not trust any institution that makes money off of lending MY shares out to predatory short-sellers who's sole purpose is to decrease the value of MY shares.

Sorry if this sounds uninformed, but what is the alternative? Even the bank and pensions gamble with your money, its how they move. I wish it wasn't the case either

You can DRS (https://www.dtcc.com/asset-services/securities-processing/di...) your shares so that no one can lend them out from you. Some brokers have a setting (opt in or opt out) that disallows lending your shares (or that compensate you if they do).

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#145

I saw the "Your Money is Secure" section, but after things like the Synapse fiasco, I would like to get confirmation from you. It says my money would be SIPC insured, which means if anything goes missing (obviously not through loss of equity value, but through missing funds or a ledger bug), I get my money back, up to the SIPC limit, right? I just want to ensure this isn't the same situation with fintechs that say yo…

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Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#146
One thing I've always wondered about products like this: how is the portability between platforms?

For example, if double.finance shuts down, are there other platforms that I can transfer my assets to inkind that will maintain the index fund tracking for me moving forward? I realize I can use ACATS to transfer the assets, but I want index tracking as well.

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#147

Who controls the voting rights to the shares purchased through these investments?

You have the ability to vote as the underlying shares for your direct index on Double are all purchased in your name.

That's great news! Thanks for the answer!

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#149
post #129

Your site touts that you're "Technologists, not bankers". People entrusting you with thousands of dollars of their savings might want some actual bankers involved in the operation. Something like "Security first" might get the point across without raising as many red flags.

As far as marketing goes, I'm not so sure that bankers hold more public trust than techies. It's basically every day a big bank is getting fined as the "cost of doing business" and often for things like laundering money etc.. There's probably a case to be made that techies do more to harm their trust, but probably not from multinational organizations.

Re: Launch HN: Double (YC W24) – Index Investing with 0% Expense Ratios

#150
This looks amazing. It's pretty clear from the comments how much skepticism and misunderstanding there is with financial products and markets, but you appear to be on the right track. Hoping for your success and to divert some funds to your platform.

- When my former VP and I looked back on our fintech that went under we concluded we should have went with Apex instead of building our own brokerage backend years ago - As you have called out, Corporate Actions is one of the most annoying parts of dealing with the financial markets

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