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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
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And insurance companies want us to need more or pay more for health care, not less. Insurance is regulated and the companies can only hold on to a certain percentage of the premiums. They would rather hold on to 20% of a huge number than 20% of a big number.
Agreed, the incentives are horribly misaligned throughout the entire healthcare market. We desperately need legislative overhaul but again congress is completely broken.
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#143Just want to caution everyone to not jump to conclusions. Remember when Bob Lee was shot in San Francisco and everyone assumed it was because of how unsafe San Francisco is? And then it turned out to be another tech exec? Beyond the one motive we can think of, this person (like any person) had other things going on in their life. We have no idea what the motive was until the killer is found.
There isn't a propaganda machine trying to make Manhattan look dangerous, so I don't think anyone thought this was random.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not this commenter, but how I've often heard it expressed was we created the justice system as a better, more civilized alternative to putting people in holes just outside of town. At such a time the justice system stops working, as it increasingly seems to have RE: the rich, then we resume holes.
This entire line of thinking just seems to be essentially advocacy for a return to that exact system. "Do what we want or we'll go back to random murder". I wonder if the original commenter would have put the same comment if the article were "man shoots his wife and her lover on discovery of adultery"
shrug I'm not an accelerationist, I do not want to live in any more historically significant times than I already have. That said, our systems continue to fail us at basically every turn so when I see stuff like this, I'm not surprised either. If you put people in a situation where they feel they have nothing to lose, you shouldn't be surprised when they start acting that way too.
People demand justice, whether they're right to is a secondary concern, as is the methodologies they choose to seek it. Some become activists. Some become politicians. Some pick up guns.
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> UnitedHealthcare is a very evil company
Because they are an insurance company? Or are they somehow worse than the others?
Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not this commenter, but how I've often heard it expressed was we created the justice system as a better, more civilized alternative to putting people in holes just outside of town. At such a time the justice system stops working, as it increasingly seems to have RE: the rich, then we resume holes.
This entire line of thinking just seems to be essentially advocacy for a return to that exact system. "Do what we want or we'll go back to random murder". I wonder if the original commenter would have put the same comment if the article were "man shoots his wife and her lover on discovery of adultery"
> I wonder if the original commenter would have put the same comment if the article were "man shoots his wife and her lover on discovery of adultery"
Why wonder if someone would make the same comment in entirely different circumstances? Why does it matter?
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only a handful of states require a permit to buy a firearm. A suppressor is equally easy to procure, and failing that, can be machined by anyone somewhat competent with a lathe. Won't link to it here, Youtube videos available with a quick web search. https://brilliantmaps.com/buy-gun-map/
A suppressor requires a federal tax stamp and (at least as of a few years ago) submission of fingerprints to the atf. So is certainly not as easy as some states requirements for firearms.
There is what the law says, and what people are physically cable of. I am being realistic, but you are free to challenge that realism with paperwork that can be ignored by folks who would seek out the hardware mentioned. There are laws against murder, how did that go today?
I am making observations of an operating environment, and don't hold strong opinions on gun rights and similar. More, "What am I dealing with as someone who has to live here?"
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's wild that we let insurance companies label government triage as "death panels" while for-profit denial innovation got a free pass.
Source?
The "Death panel" thing was the primary boogeyman when the ACA was being discussed. But like the comment says, that already exists, just in private form instead of government.
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>Also that would be a great plot for a movie, akin to the Breaking Bad TV series. If you took this idea and worked it into a script with characters and drama you'd get something close to John Q starring Denzel Washington. Not his best work, but a pretty good watch.
Indeed, or in a Tarantino movie, but in that case the killing would need to happen in a different way.
Maybe like, his own employee has her husband's treatment denied, then fueled by rage, does the justice with her own hands with a lot of red in the screen and some feet shots, of course.