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Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by Kuinox »

nradov wrote: post #131
Kuinox wrote: post #76

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Yes, it's taking ages in order to get ride of thoses in of Paris. You need to not hurt thoses who are brainwashed by cars and keep taking it despite having one of the best public transit in the world.

How do people get around Paris when transit employees don't feel like working that day?

There are multiple route to get from point A to B. For example, from Versailles to Invalides, you can take: RER C then Metro 8. Or TER N then i can choose from two different metro line at Montparnasse Or TER U then RER A.

There is also buses, bus since the rail is faster, I never take it.

In case of strike the network is never fully down, people that can remote work do it, so there is a lot less of people transiting. On the biggest strike you can loose an hour or two while commuting, for small strike, it will get more crowded.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by iancmceachern »

sitharus wrote: post #27
_ZeD_ wrote: post #26

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it's not unsanitary on your plates, why should it be on your skin?

Your plates can be washed with temperatures that would scald you and with chemicals that dissolve your skin. But you don’t want to sanitise your skin, just get the dirt off, so I don’t see any real issues.

The issue is that water would be so dirty and gross. The same water that washed your rear end will then be sprayed on your face. If you are only using a few gallons (not like a bath which has dozens) that's pretty gnarly.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by bayindirh »

eek2121 wrote: post #130
bayindirh wrote: post #81

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A nominal water aerator limits water around 5L-6L/min levels. For every minute I don't use the water, I spend approximately two full kettles of water. With every 5L of water I can - Cook 4 servings (~400 grams) of pasta. - Brew 5L of tea/coffee - Water all the plants at home two times. - Possibly wash most of my handwash-only dishes in one go. - etc. So it's not not meaningfully wasteful . However, I can't turn off t…

Water is by far the most abundant resource on the planet (70+% of earth is water), and we have methods to remove salt and contaminants from almost all of it. We can even turn urine into drinking water. I wouldn’t worry about wasting it. We’ll die from something else long before water becomes an issue.

The amount, abundance and share of water among everything on this planet doesn't mean anything if none of it is in that dam nearby your city and you can't utilize it.

Similarly, that spring water has no use if you can't extract it and get out from the hands of capitalistic companies (cough Nestlé & CocaCola cough) which monopolize said spring and suck it dry without giving it to you.

Don't forget, Nestlé's CEO told that "water is something they package and sell, and that water is not a human right". So don't expect it to get that abundant resource and use it the way you wish.

So, water is precious. You need to be mindful about it.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by baud147258 »

Kuinox wrote: post #140
baud147258 wrote: post #126

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I'm not sure Paris has one of the best public transit in the world or maybe that's just an indicative of the sorry state of public transit worldwide. I mean I wouldn't call world-class a system where just a single failure easily strands 1 million people halfway to their destination and where trains are delayed and cancelled routinely, often without information given to passengers. I'm in favor of more public transpor…

For a lot of destination you can take 2-3 differentes routes. The rest of your comment try to justify car usage by taking less than 5% of the transit in the city, when there is already exception or infrastructures made for the scenario you described (except elevators and accessibility, thats a big issur in paris intra-muros). Yes, there are a lot of people that use the car when they can not use it, thats still most o…

> Yes, there are a lot of people that use the car when they can not use it, thats still most of the car traffic.

so, do you have any data to back up that assertion? (I won't claim that I have any favorable to my argument, just the observation that driving in and Paris around Paris is pretty bad)

> For a lot of destination you can take 2-3 differentes routes.

most alternative routes usually take longer and end up congested whenever the main route is having issues.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by Kuinox »

baud147258 wrote: post #144
Kuinox wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a lot of destination you can take 2-3 differentes routes. The rest of your comment try to justify car usage by taking less than 5% of the transit in the city, when there is already exception or infrastructures made for the scenario you described (except elevators and accessibility, thats a big issur in paris intra-muros). Yes, there are a lot of people that use the car when they can not use it, thats still most o…

> Yes, there are a lot of people that use the car when they can not use it, thats still most of the car traffic. so, do you have any data to back up that assertion? (I won't claim that I have any favorable to my argument, just the observation that driving in and Paris around Paris is pretty bad) > For a lot of destination you can take 2-3 differentes routes. most alternative routes usually take longer and end up cong…

The average is still 1.3 person per car, if you get outside a little you will see tons of single person in cars, and not in minitruck like artisans.

https://www.paris.fr/pages/le-bilan-des-deplacements-a-paris...

Indicate 13% of the traffic is for utilitary vehicule. This number include people taking their utilitary vehicule for personal reason. 50% is for personal vehicules.

Also, why were you driving around Paris ?

> most alternative routes usually take longer

It depends.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by bagels »

eek2121 wrote: post #130
bayindirh wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nominal water aerator limits water around 5L-6L/min levels. For every minute I don't use the water, I spend approximately two full kettles of water. With every 5L of water I can - Cook 4 servings (~400 grams) of pasta. - Brew 5L of tea/coffee - Water all the plants at home two times. - Possibly wash most of my handwash-only dishes in one go. - etc. So it's not not meaningfully wasteful . However, I can't turn off t…

Water is by far the most abundant resource on the planet (70+% of earth is water), and we have methods to remove salt and contaminants from almost all of it. We can even turn urine into drinking water. I wouldn’t worry about wasting it. We’ll die from something else long before water becomes an issue.

Water already is an issue in many places. It's expensive and in limited supply because we can't drink salt water and storage, treatment and delivery cost money.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by bagels »

pantalaimon wrote: post #113
bayindirh wrote: post #81

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A nominal water aerator limits water around 5L-6L/min levels. For every minute I don't use the water, I spend approximately two full kettles of water. With every 5L of water I can - Cook 4 servings (~400 grams) of pasta. - Brew 5L of tea/coffee - Water all the plants at home two times. - Possibly wash most of my handwash-only dishes in one go. - etc. So it's not not meaningfully wasteful . However, I can't turn off t…

The water is cheap and plentiful, what's wasteful is heating the water and throwing that away.

If you live in Minnesota, sure. Not as true in Australia.

Re: A washing machine for human beings, from 1970

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Post by standardUser »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #138
idiomaddict wrote: post #120

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Do you think every woman does this regularly without pay? My entire shower takes 8 minutes as a woman.

You're faster than me, a man with short hair :). Rinse, gel, shampoo, rinse, shampoo, rinse - but the warm water also cleans the mind and soothes the soul, so I'm not in that big of a hurry to end one of the best ways to relax and unwind I have. It usually adds up to 10 minutes. I have a family member, also male with short hair, who used to take 20-30 minute showers every day, driving others in the house insane - but…

I have extremely thick hair, but only use shampoo once every few weeks because too much absolutely ruins my hair texture. Nonetheless, just rinsing my hair thoroughly with warm water and then cold water takes at least 5-6 minutes per shower.

I think the greater point is that hair maintenance varies greatly from person to person, and it is absurd to assume every male only needs 2 minutes or every female needs > 15 minutes. A great example of the stupidity of stereotype and how it leads us away from useful thought.

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