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London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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I've heard there is a cafe in Billingsgate you can go to first thing in the morning and get a scallop and bacon roll for £8. I need to try it soon.

> a scallop and bacon roll > £8 Bloody hell...

Looks like it was only a fiver in 2020: https://thefoodconnoisseur.co.uk/breakfast/billingsgate-cafe...

It's not Greggs prices, but I'd like to try it at least once. It looks like it closes at 8am though.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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The City of London (aka the Square Mile) is literally a world unto itself. Even the Mayor of London is not the mayor of the City of London. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London

That seems incorrect. The mayor is the mayor of Greater London which includes the City of London, although the City also has a Lord Mayor, as London boroughs have elected or ceremonial mayors. In other words, the City has its own mayor in the sense that other parts of London have their own sub-governments, although with a few differences such as policing and city status. > The mayor is scrutinised by the London Assem…

Appreciate the clarification!

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Go for it. Econ 100 textbook bs about supply and demand are trivially dismissed by a casual examination of housing and rental prices in the US in gentrified areas. What happens when the real world intrudes on academic platitudes is rather straightforward: pricing for everything goes up and the folks who were struggling get pushed out. Nobody who couldn't afford housing in the market before the shift is served.

I'm more than open to reading anything about that! Literally anything! Most respectfully and deferentially, I don't think "more things available makes price goes down" is a platitude or textbook or academic thing! I must confess, the fact this Fat Tony logic and not some theory invented in an academic textbook ivory-tower divorced-from-reality impoverished-intellectual safe haven is why I cannot provide a proof: the…

> I'm more than open to reading anything about that! Literally anything!

Great! Start paying attention to real estate and rental prices in areas near "mixed use" development projects and urban multi-story housing construction, literally the projects that are billed by politicians as addressing housing shortages and you'll find my point bore out pretty plainly.

> I don't think "more things available makes price goes down" is a platitude or textbook or academic thing!

It isn't in the context of bulk commodities and raw inputs where producers compete solely on volume. Housing is not a volume market and no incentives exist for developers or property owners to make it one. See also: RealPage sued for enabling market collusion in residential rental rates: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/23/feds-sue-software-c...

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Yes. Canary Wharf is being transformed from a purely financial district into a mixed business-residential district. They want to move noisy and smelly businesses away from the offices and apartments.

Smithfield Market and the City of London are nowhere near Canary Wharf

Billingsgate Market, subject of this article, is on Canary Wharf.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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This is quite the claim. Do you have any evidence that this is at all common? On the surface it sounds like a conspiracy theory tinged with racism.

I’ve never seen a claim like this levelled at London, famously a place increasingly losing social housing stock for luxury housing. The only thing I can think of is this is a new twist of the complaint that a lot of London’s housing is left unoccupied because it’s Russian/Saudi vacation homes or whatever.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Christ, yeah - I came here to post the same quote. What kind of horrific shit does one need to go through in life to become capable of uttering that kind of horseshit with a straight face?

Maybe we shouldn’t be casting stones from the HN glass house, because literally every other startup here has a mission statement that sounds as ridiculous as this

Arguably, startups should have absurd mission statements, while managers of the city of London should be more sober.
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