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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by bloomingkales »

thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

You know, they stopped Amazon from buying iRobot because of I guess unfair robot vacuum competition (why does that sound hilarious?). It's almost luck that Threads isn't that successful, because then they'd have to deal with monopoly concerns. At least now they can just say it's a shitty twitter knock off, don't bother us.

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Post by lordfrito »

staplers wrote: post #102
dandellion wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…

People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand what they're talking about. This isn't the enlightened take you think it is. Lack of education led us here. Fuming at intellectuals when they attempt to address complex issues reminds me of our evolutionary ancestors fuming at the creation of civilization.

> Lack of education led us here.

There are a lot of intelligent people that just happen to be "uneducated".

Meanwhile I've met plenty of "educated" people that hold a wide variety of contradictory beliefs and lack the ability to critically think.

"Not educated" is just another convenient (and lazy) strawman outgroup. Liberty for me but not for thee, etc.

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Post by hughesjj »

thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

It reminds me of google plus. Technically better than the existing top dog, but the forced migration and trying to bootstrap with a huge but only semi involved userbase let it fizzle soon after the start.

Has there ever been a successful case of bootstrapping a new social media product with an existing userbase? Like not just added features or merging two together.

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Post by mgraybosch »

the_snooze wrote: post #78
Onavo wrote: post #62

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The second camp is just artificially creating echo chambers, a virtual "separate and distinct network" for the parts that matter.

The "echo chamber" argument really doesn't speak to me because all I want is a place where I can get timely updates about: people in my research field, pictures of cute dogs, and municipal government activities. The more a website stays laser-focused on my interests, the better.

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dandellion wrote: post #74
alsetmusic wrote: post #51

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>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…

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Post by madeofpalk »

ipaddr wrote: post #69
xena wrote: post #48

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It's pretty easy to get that kind of vitriol if you say that you want people like you to continue existing.

And you say this to people you label not like you. You probably have more in common than you think. You both agree to label the other and you decided to fight a proxy battle from the agreed among identities. Do you want the other side not to exist as well? If yes let them know.

Let’s not pretend the disagreement is about fiscal policy.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by otteromkram »

mingus88 wrote: post #97
orbat wrote: post #49

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Usenet, BBSs, mailing lists etc. are social media

Not in the modern sense. Those mediums do not have algorithms, feeds, followers, profiles, influencers, likes, or any features that many people point to as the toxic aspects of pretty much every commercial social media site of the last decade. I’d say livejournal was the tipping point where the internet became very self-centered and your value in the platform was measured by how much engagement you were able to get.…

> Not in the modern sense.

Yes, no one was making that comparison.

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Post by 101008 »

ElCapitanMarkla wrote: post #138
sockaddr wrote: post #116

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I’d bet Meta is counting all the random Instagram users that accidentally interact with the forced threads clickbait posts in their feed.

Be interesting to see if they count people with the app or not. As far as I’m aware you need the app to view threads in their entirety. I tried it but uninstalled shortly after

Treads is accesible via the browser now too

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by dandellion »

staplers wrote: post #102
dandellion wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…

People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand what they're talking about. This isn't the enlightened take you think it is. Lack of education led us here. Fuming at intellectuals when they attempt to address complex issues reminds me of our evolutionary ancestors fuming at the creation of civilization.

It's not an enlightened take, it's a pretty basic observation.

I've had the fortune of working with many people a lot smarter than me, and one thing all the smartest ones can do is explain complex topics to people outside their field in a way they can understand.

Using intellectual language to address a non-intellectual audience like voters, or a forum with many non-native speakers, that they won't understand seems a dumb thing for an "intellectual" to do. It's not about intellect, enlightenment or education, it's about using language to communicate instead of using it for... something else, not sure what.

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