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Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by cassianoleal »

DanielHB wrote: post #132
cassianoleal wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair but it's also moving the goalpost. :)

True, but like I mentioned, I lived in Campinas which is not that bad IT place, but still I was very unimpressed about the jobs around the region, either boring enterprise jobs or small scrappy startups. If I have to move somewhere where I know no one and it takes a plane flight to see family I might as well move to a place with a hot job market where I can make good money and have good work life balance.

I moved abroad from Porto Alegre for similar reasons (and many others) so I get it.

That said, I did have a few interesting jobs there. And the quality of life was in many ways better, though I can’t complain much.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by david-gpu »

rcxdude wrote: post #136
david-gpu wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so it makes sense that you feel like that, but please don't try to justify your experience by claiming that everyone else feels the same I beg your pardon? Let me quote the very first comment I made in this thread. >>>> There are pros and cons to all possibilities, whether it is staying put, traveling as a tourist, or immigrating in a foreign country. This is in contrast to some of the claims made by others in this…

I think your first post would have been stronger if you hadn't held up the poster's decision to return home as evidence that travelling could be negative, because that didn't follow on from their post or point whatsoever. The rest of your points can stand without that. (FWIW, I disagree: there is tremendous value in travelling, even if just as a tourist. The main issue is having the resources to do it, which I think…

> I think your first post would have been stronger if you hadn't held up the poster's decision to return home as evidence that travelling could be negative, because that didn't follow on from their post or point whatsoever.

This is how the thread went from my perspective:

> [Them] I used to do something and then stopped. My life is fantastic now. That said, I recommend everybody to do what I stopped doing; I have never met anybody who regretted doing it.

> [Me] If it is so great, why did you stop? There are pros and cons to both doing and not doing it

> [Others] But doing that thing is so great! Everybody should do it!

> [Me] Here are some of the common long-term downsides of doing that thing...

> [Others] Don't claim this happens to everybody! Doing that thing is so great! Everybody should do it!

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by incomingpain »

As a Canadian, where would I go abroad to? We do have our first ever illegitimate prime minister; found guilty of major civil right violations. Seizing bank accounts without court order or any due process. Arresting people on charges of mischief for words said online. State media willing to publish extreme lies to justify the government's illegal behaviours...

It's reasonable to wish to leave Canada; but generally speaking its the rest of the world seeking to move to Canada.

Australia? Lots going really well for them. I do have family in WA. Their government debt is good, economically still a powerhouse, despite government's efforts to kill their domestic industry. At least in WA, their driving laws are some of the dumbest ive seen in the world. 1km/h over the speed limit and you get a maximum speeding ticket? They have roaming speed trap cameras? Speed limits adjust multiple times in under a km. Speed limits are artificially low to produce ticket revenue. The only place ive ever been pulled over and forced to blow a machine. Nanny state problems big time in australia. Australia's gun laws eliminate the consideration of ever moving there.

Finland, norway, czech, switzerland, estonia, lithuania, look like great options, but language barrier concerns. But worse... you folks have a nutjob neighbour to the east with nukes. I currently live out of reach for everthing except their ICBMs, im not moving into range.

It would seem to me the only place for me would be to move to the USA.

Right off the top, I'd never move to any stop and identify state. Which eliminates most good states to live in. Do the same again for constitutional carry. Texas, Idaho, Wyoming, missippi, are still options. Long story short, it seems Texas is the place to go.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by eesmith »

thatloststudent wrote: post #137
eesmith wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like lancebeet, I learned there are radioactive isotopes of carbon as part of learning about carbon dating while in high school. I think there's a big step from that knowledge to say that means I know the basics of nuclear physics. If anything, it's a better test for the basics of archaeological dating. Or, as I learned recently, the 12C/13C/14C ratios are used to help determine the source for the increase in atmosph…

I'm Indian. We also learned that Carbon dating was a thing somewhere between Middle School and High School. I also believe that the reference to isotopes was hyperbolic and that he actually wanted to talk about the fact that we teach the basics of Nuclear fission, fusion and radioactive decay in high school. [1] In hindsight, it's funny that we use radioactive decay as one of the filters for an entrance exam for Univ…

Maybe if he studied nuclear physics he would know that topic wasn't nuclear physics. ;)

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by hshshshshsh »

signaru wrote: post #138
felixarba wrote: post #37

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Nationalism is not the thing stopping most people. It's your friends, family and the feeling of belonging. This is culture, not nationalism. I lived in Canada for 10 years before moving back home. I had a great life in Canada, fulfilled things I quite literally never dreamed possible, but I didn't belong. I lived my life between vacations, just waiting for the time that I can go back home and spend time with family.…

Opportunities that require big risks is also another factor. My academic acquaintances abroad may be doing well financially and travel-wise, but they all have to live their foreign bosses' ambitions despite being very bright people. It's far easier to take crazier entrepreneurial risks with the safety nets in one's own home-country.

If easy is what your optimising for Entrepreneurship is probably not the path.

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by LinuxBender »

misja111 wrote: post #9

> But I was told on day one Twitter orientation to “Walk fast”. Drugged homeless people approached me, one guy tried to hit me while waiting to cross the street. WTF, is this really the reality of living in San Francisco?

In some parts. It's been cleaned up a bit after covid. [1] I like this Youtuber as he gives a fair and unbiased approach to cities.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAfVNkSRSM4 [video][51 mins]

Re: Why don't you move abroad?

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Post by jollyllama »

hshshshshsh wrote: post #4

To people who are considering moving abroad you should do it. Don't let nationalism stop you. You were randomly born in your country. Choose your country. Don't let randomness and some emotional baggage control where you want to live. You have a finite live. Make most of it.

This is the path to atomization.

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Post by jimberlage »

nordiknomad wrote: post #48

well, below points are not matching somehow : -------------------------------------- Just like many Indians of my generation, I spent my childhood in a single bedroom rented house. Every evening, my brother and I would sit in front of an oil lamp and study, mostly maths and science. ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ My father has been a software engineer since…

My understanding is that Internet cafes are/were more common in India.

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Post by PrismCrystal »

TrackerFF wrote: post #33

For some, home is where the heart is. I've lived in 11 major cities around the world for the past 25 years, but in the end I moved back home to my rural hometown, in my home country. Remote work made that possible. I make probably 20% of what I could have done in high-COL areas like the Bay Area. But I have a fantastic work-life balance. Make good money, relative to my peers. Clock in 9, clock out 4. Get to spend lot…

"I've never met anyone that regretted on 'traveling too much'."

I have traveled as lifestyle since my late teens and am now in my forties. (I went to uni in a country where lecture attendance isn't compulsory, so many students only come in for the exams, and then I began remote work already in the early millennium.) It is just who I am, and I wouldn't necessarily say I regret it. However, I and loads of people I know struggle with the negative consequences: inability to maintain romantic relationships since a partner will inevitably want to settle down; difficulties with connecting with the local people because conservative societies are suspicious of older men who don't have a conventional family life or focus on a career; and mutual frustration with your sedentary friends back home since your lives are now so different.

You don't see this discussed much on travel media, because the modern ad-supported internet wants positivity and rainbows. However, this is absolutely a frequent conversation topic whenever I meet up with other nomadic travelers.

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