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Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by hombre_fatal »

ndiddy wrote: post #36
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

I'm glad our government has introduced the H1B program to help out employers like you who are dealing with a shortage of tech workers (who will work for 2/3 market and will do anything you say because if they get fired they'll be deported).

Fwiw they're probably just making a point to protest the phenomenon.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by ulfw »

alephnerd wrote: post #113
ulfw wrote: post #79

There are no jobs. I've been looking for two years. A couple of humongous rounds of interviews (one company in Sydney had me do 15 interviews plus a presentation, plus meetups with the CEO for lunch and the CTO and a case study), all for one mid-size startup CPO role. No hire. Two weeks later they announced another 25% of layoffs. I've tried and exhausted all my contacts, from work, Stanford alumni, everything. There…

There just aren't that many jobs for management roles (CPO/VP Product/etc) compared to applicants. Being in HK probably isn't helping either because there are plenty of qualified candidates across China and ASEAN now as well - especially in the hospitality and B2C space.

Oh 100%. But of course I am not limited to HK at all (in fact I am planning to move to AU next year as I got permanent residence there through their Global Talent visa programme). But nothing there either. And I'm not limiting myself to CPO or VP roles but yea... this is what it has been

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Post by selimthegrim »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #124
niemandhier wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will than probably change with the new American government and its anti-immigration stance. Less h1b, less ghost jobs.

Unlikely. "Staple a Green Card to their diploma" is what Trump had to say about students from other countries that graduate from US universities. Since out of country students pay the highest tuition rates, universities love them and give them preferential admissions. Though not as bad as elementary and high schools, universities suffer from grade inflation and are reluctant to kick out paying customers, especially t…

STEM grad student tuition is paid by government grants

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Post by LargeWu »

cryo28 wrote: post #25
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

So, you are effectively committing fraud!

I work for and the way they get around this is by only hiring contractors. Because then the liability for that is on the vendor.

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Post by goochphd »

bradley13 wrote: post #59

I once applied for a job that precisely matched my qualifications. It was crazy - the job description could have been written by someone looking at my CV. I didn't even get an interview. Likely no one did. It wasn't a ghost job, though. It was a position created for a someone they wanted to hire. Being a public institution, they were required to advertise positions. That didn't mean that they actually wanted any of t…

I once applied to a position like this. It was eerily similar to my background, and when I did a little digging I found that the group lead had even directly cited my research papers in his own research work.

I applied on the site, reached out on LinkedIn to the group lead and the recruiter, and even was able to find emails for those two, which I also messaged as well.

They didn't even bother to send me an automated rejection notice. There was nothing at all, no responses to any messages, no email, nothing. I have to assume that position was posted with someone already in mind that they wanted to hire.

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Post by zero-sharp »

mithametacs wrote: post #135
echoangle wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this was serious. If someone says: > This isn't ethical. It shouldn't be legal. But it is. It actually means „ok, it actually is illegal, but it’s not properly enforced“?

Dawg, not every sentence someone says is 100% literal all the time.

Can you guys stop shitposting?

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Post by UncleMeat »

falseprofit wrote: post #30
shmatt wrote: post #14

I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…

Maybe if someone is “amazing” you should get them a green card.

Companies can't just do this.

It'd be fabulous if this was an option, but green card applications have all sorts of caps and aren't even just "wait in a line for N years." They are random every year and every year you fail to get approved you get no closer to being approved.

The effect is that you can have excellent engineers who've been in the US for a decade+ who are still in this liminal space where they don't have legal permanent residency.

Re: Why is it so hard to find a job now? Enter Ghost Jobs

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Post by evantbyrne »

htrp wrote: post #3
kappi wrote: post #2

In tech, ghost job listings maybe as high as 50%. Another reason for ghost job listing is to meet the requirements for visa processing.

> Another reason for ghost job listing is to meet the requirements for visa processing. This plus the idea of just grabbing and holding resumes that the HR team will never actually look at.

I suspect a lot of the frustration people describe comes from this combined with presently high demand for remote tech jobs. Back when I was job searching in late 2023, I noticed there would be _hundreds_ of applicants for even the worst postings (e.g., paying 50% market rate). Nobody is reading that many resumes, and in the unlikely case they are, that person probably lacks the expertise needed to evaluate candidates. Screeners are starting with resumes recommended to them and binning the rest.
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