The Russians were saying the dude lost his mind months ago and that NASA blamed the whole ordeal on the voeing capsule. Who knows
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#142seems like a normal thing after that long in space. am i missing something?
No, you're not missing anything. This whole thread is an embarrassment. Space is hard on the body and one of the astronauts wasn't feeling 100% when they came back.
The Russians have literally been saying the guy lost his mind up there months ago...
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are making a strawman of the position. Nobody thinks we will be able to just move to Mars in our lifetime. Some people think it is important to spread the human race beyond earth. It isn't about climate change.
There is no singular "the position", there are multiple people with different positions. Some just want to see humanity become a multi-planetary species this millennium, which is a perfectly sensible goal. Others imagine going to mars as a solution to climate change.
> Others imagine going to mars as a solution to climate change.
Can you link to some people on this camp?
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no singular "the position", there are multiple people with different positions. Some just want to see humanity become a multi-planetary species this millennium, which is a perfectly sensible goal. Others imagine going to mars as a solution to climate change.
> Others imagine going to mars as a solution to climate change. Can you link to some people on this camp?
Unless you ship all the fuel you need to have on Mars while you are there and to get back (expensive), you'd need some technology to capture CO2 from the Martian atmosphere and combine it with hydrogen (from electrolysis) to make methane. But once you have that capture technology working there, it doesn't seem like there would be a problem with running that technology on Earth. If it were possible to capture CO2 directly from the air (DAC), you'd be cutting down the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere that is only there because we burn fossile fuels.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Musk is frustrated with government inefficiency No, primarily Musk is frustrated with any requirement that he be accountable. Across the next four years his goals will be to reduce any accountability or transparency that applies to him and to maximize his profit. Oligarchs always follow the same pattern.
This is assuming intent that has never been reflected in action. Are you sure you're not just projecting your own assumptions about him? The ones you need to have to justify your apparent hatred of him?
You're confusing hatred with objectivity.
Oligarchs aren't subtle or even interesting. It's remarkable how blind people are to the obvious.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes there is. It is called a social contract.
"Social contract" is a term people use to try and bully people into things they never agreed to. Non-imaginary contracts require acceptance. The essential elements of a social contract: - I want it to be true real bad - Other people are forced to comply with it - I dictate the terms unilaterally
What do you mean? It is literally the opposite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract
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The info will be made public eventually. There is no reason it need be public immediately.
Unless they are hoping the public forgets to follow up. Sort of like when the president's press secretary says to a reporter when faced with a difficult question, "I'll have to get back to you on that."
Just like they got back to us on those pipelines that were blown up in the sea, they never said who really did it
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Yes. That is absolutely true. The conflict of course is that the point of sending astronauts to space is to learn about the medical effects of the space environment on human bodies. Basically they are participating in a very expensive publicly funded medical trial. So the goals of that need to be balanced against their privacy. I’m not advocating that NASA should publish high resolution pictures of astronauts with pu…
It could be a medical condition entirely unrelated to their mission. If it's unrelated, the astronaut deserves their privacy. If spaceflight made their condition worse in some unexpected way, that should probably be made public. Maybe NASA is just waiting to confirm which option it is?
I feel a medical event that happened during a mission should be worth reporting even if it doesn't seem related at the time. There are so few humans that have spent significant time in space, less than 1000 that have went for any time all, and nearly all of them have been publicly funded research missions. Rather than hide data that seems innocuous at the time we should be gathering and sharing that until it's not such a rare research oriented project to travel to space. If you can't put your personal medical privacy interests aside then you shouldn't be the one signing up and being selected for such a public research service function.
At the same time I imagine this issue is something extremely mundane... which makes the lack of transparency and resulting media stir even more grating.
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Gawker went bankrupt, because a public figure who felt that he was outed failed to win a lawsuit against them, so bankrolled someone else's lawsuit, with many questions unanswered. Public figure, because Courts have ruled that billionaires are public figures due to their "outsized influence on government and public policy". Outed by Gawker, despite his social media at the time regularly featuring photos of him shirtl…
The reason Hogan won the lawsuit against Gawker is because they shared a video and story that was not newsworthy, and unfairly invaded a person's privacy. Gawker fucked up, and had a history of fucking up in this exact way, without being held accountable. I think they absolutely deserved to get shut down. Did Thiel take advantage of the situation for the purposes of revenge? Most likely! But at the end of the day, Ga…
> The reason Hogan won the lawsuit against Gawker is because they shared a video and story that was not newsworthy, and unfairly invaded a person's privacy.
I have no issue with Hogan winning: "I have many issues, not with Hogan's lawsuit, but Thiel's bankrolling of it".
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone posted a scrollable web page depiction of Musk's worth a while back. The entire NASA budget is insanely small by comparison. To imagine it, I would guess he cares more about what's in his omelet than getting more money from that budget.
Musk is frustrated with government inefficiency, especially with regulatory processes. He has complained multiple times about the approval process for launches and returns. One government agency, he said, at one point required them to do a study that estimated the chances of a re-entering rocket body impacting a gray whale in the event that it splashed down hard -- personally I agree, that is kind of ridiculous.
>One government agency, he said, at one point required them to do a study that estimated the chances of a re-entering rocket body impacting a gray whale in the event that it splashed down hard -- personally I agree, that is kind of ridiculous.
Except that’s not actually what happened.
See https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/57423/did-the-u...
If you read the relevant portions of SpaceX’s submission to the FAA (link and page numbers in the link above), the FAA comes across as totally reasonable. It sounds like they were just trying to make sure that SpaceX complied with the Endangered Species Act and other related laws. That’s hardly an example of agency overreach.