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Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by lazide »

xp84 wrote: post #88
xg15 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's instantly released, then yes. But in this thread are reports where the offensive actions happened 15 years ago. After such a long time of "good behavior" it makes no sense for me to still keep the domain blocked/downranked.

Honestly, these days, with domains in general being nearly free compared to the profit potential of a single successful spammer grift, I’m not sure I even see the point of blacklisting domains at all. 25 years ago maybe a spammer would be devastated that he had to “start all over and buy a new domain and build up its reputation.” Now, spammers launch and abandon what, a million new domains a day? Google or anyone spi…

The only reason they go to those new domains is because of the blacklist.

If you remove the blacklist, they’d just stop doing that and it would be even easier for them.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by lazide »

mschuster91 wrote: post #65
dtdynasty wrote: post #6

> Ideally, search engine algorithms would give new domain owners a fresh start. Sadly, I think this would be instantly gamed by abusers. They would release the domain name and attempt to register as a new owner or start repeatedly doing handoffs. It's difficult to tell who the owner is changing between and whether or not the new one is a better actor than the former.

Require a deposit then, say 1000$, that is to be refunded after a year of probationary period. You get caught being a scammer/spammer, you lose the deposit.

Who holds the deposit, and what is to stop them from having someone report your domain as a spammer so they can keep your money?

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by evantbyrne »

poincaredisk wrote: post #64
survirtual wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much of the world is still based on who you know. This is a bug in our society I would really, really like to see fixed in my lifetime.

Is this a bug? I think this is a built in feature since version 1.0.

Depends on the context. Forming a real human connection with someone who has proven they can be trusted is a feature. However, people oftentimes feel they are connected to others based on identity, and then treat those people favorably regardless of merit. The latter is such a major detriment to society that it needs to be actively countered by regulation (and is to some extent).

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by deltarholamda »

detourdog wrote: post #121
deltarholamda wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Haunted" is actually a pretty good descriptor. Something terrible happened here in the past. The intangible spirts from this terrible event remain. The new owner discovers his pictures scream at him and his closet constantly fills up with blood. The fault, ultimately, belongs with the one who did the terrible deed.

blacklisted would be a good description as well.

Maybe, but it's not "blacklisted" per se. You can go to the URL and do whatever.

It's not getting SEO blessings, true, but it's not disappeared.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by detourdog »

CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #128
detourdog wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

blacklisted would be a good description as well.

Blacklist is too concrete. With some domains, you merely will find a higher % of your emails land in spam, or your content ranks a bit worse, etc. There's a somewhat random continuum. Haunting is a funny word that does sort of include some variability.

Yes, but they are on some blacklist somewhere. One could say greylisted. The point is the whatever term describes the issue shouldn't be mystical.

Haunted implies a supernatural condition that just isn't helpful in system administration.

If something isn't working with a service there is always a method to troubleshoot and isolate the issue. Contact the appropriate people when needed. This is how NeoTokyo restored his "listed" domain.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by internet101010 »

lefstathiou wrote: post #80
a_t48 wrote: post #30

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I'd be somewhat interested in seeing the cels. :)

https://www.neotokyo.com I have a +100 cel backlog that I need to catalog and photograph. Was planning to do it this holiday season so check back in.

Did you get anything from the Heritage auction last week? They had a ton of good stuff.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by kortilla »

0xFACEFEED wrote: post #37
edm0nd wrote: post #34

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> not what work resources are for Employees are not robots. They are human beings. Sometimes human beings have human problems that need the assistance of other humans. This makes humans happier and more productive. It's depressing to think that there are people who actually believe that optimal use of work resources is even worth calling out as an issue. In 2024.

>actually believe that optimal use of work resources is even worth calling out as an issue.

Setting aside moral arguments, if it raises to the level of embezzlement, it’s a crime.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by Pikamander2 »

A client of mine once swapped over to a new domain that was coincidentally one letter away from another major domain. It wasn't an attempt to typosquat or anything nefarious, but Chrome started automatically showing everyone a big scary warning page before entering the site. We looked into appealing it but there was no guarantee of it getting whitelisted in a timely manner, so we ended up canceling the domain migration before they lost too much traffic.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by campbel »

Pikamander2 wrote: post #148

A client of mine once swapped over to a new domain that was coincidentally one letter away from another major domain. It wasn't an attempt to typosquat or anything nefarious, but Chrome started automatically showing everyone a big scary warning page before entering the site. We looked into appealing it but there was no guarantee of it getting whitelisted in a timely manner, so we ended up canceling the domain migrati…

I wonder if it would be a reasonable requirement of registrars to now allow domains to be purchased if they are some edit distance away from existing/active domains. Its fine if Google wants to protect its users, but ideally this would be caught sooner.

Re: Before you buy a domain name, first check to see if it's haunted

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Post by kortilla »

AStonesThrow wrote: post #66
evilotto wrote: post #59

This happens with physical addresses too, for similar reasons. The ABC (Alcoholic Beverages Commision) tracks complaints against physical addresses, and too many violations will get an address banned from permits. Then a new owner comes in with a new business and gets mysteriously denied for a liquor license, even years later.

It is customary to revoke the right of a business to name itself if there were too many violations. If you've ever gone to a nightclub or bar which has no name, only its street address number, that's what has happened there.

How can a business function without a name? So much tax paperwork requires a name. Is it just a sole proprietor that files everything under the owners name?
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