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Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
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Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#142I don’t see any problem here. They spend money, effort, time to develop their products. Why do they need to give that products for free to everyone, or even their competitors? Others can choose to use or not use vscode. If they concern about the telemetry, build themselves or use other code editor then.
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Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#143WordPerfect and Lotus 1-2-3 have entered the chat.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like the only sensible comment in this thread so far. Here's what I imagine it's like working on the Copilot team: > Mgmt: "We need this feature, and we need in 2 weeks." > Devs: "That feature is not technically possible." > Mgmt: "Well, figure out a way to make it possible. That's _your_ problem."
The few people I know in the Copilot team(s) (not necessarily VS Code) are laser focused on prioritizing features based on customer demand, not top-down guidance :)
Who decides what customer demands? Is it a free for all environment where people just push whatever they want into the trunk?
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#145Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Thank you. This needs to be said & should be reported.
If we want a world that isn’t massively hostile to devs, like it is for most companies, this is the kind of advocacy we need and I’d love to see more people in tech putting it out there.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#146Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Embrace.
Extend. Extinguish.
Microsoft. Microsoft never changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#147It's felt for a long time to me that MS has been slowly boiling the frog with VSCode - injecting little bits of proprietary/non open source functionality at a time. I want to switch to something else but the community at large for the languages I develop in is pretty centered on VS code (Rust and Typescript mostly), and it's a really good editor. Obviously not helped by Typescript being stewarded by MS too.
VSCodium is VSCode without the Microsoft EULA and extra stuff. Most extensions are available in the app, others through openvsx.org
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like the only sensible comment in this thread so far. Here's what I imagine it's like working on the Copilot team: > Mgmt: "We need this feature, and we need in 2 weeks." > Devs: "That feature is not technically possible." > Mgmt: "Well, figure out a way to make it possible. That's _your_ problem."
This doesn't fly when you're a company the size of Microsoft with the kind of influence and power they have. You can't just ignore the possibility or effects of engaging in anti-competitive behavior simply because it's convenient for you. That's not how it works. It's not sensible at all.
Why not? They're survived for decades just shrugging off the law and paying off whatever minor fine there is years later. They started that model, now embraced by everyone from Google to Apple to Uber. Build it fast, get rich, worry about legality later.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#149Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Hanlon's razor falls apart when it's used outside of personal relationships and in situations where billions of dollars are on the line.
There is no functional difference between a Microsoft that's really excited about Copilot so that it quickly integrates it into their products and a Microsoft that's hellbent on making sure Copilot gets to use secret APIs others can't.
Re: Microsoft is introducing hidden APIs to VS Code only enabled for Copilot?
#150Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. Microsoft. Microsoft never changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
where's the embrace step? vscode is their own product in the first place.