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US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Each version has improved. FSD is realistically the hardest thing humanity as ever tried to do. It involves an enormous amount of manpower, compute power and human discoveries, and has to work right in billions of scenarios.

Building a self flying plane is comically easy by comparison. Building Starship is easier by comparison.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Nuclear power adoption is the largest force to combat climate change.

I think solar is a lot cheaper than nuclear, even if you factor in battery storage.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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Will the review assess overall mortality of the vehicles compared to similar cars, and overall mortality while FSD is in use?

Fatalities per passenger mile driven is the only statistic that would matter. I actually doubt this figure differs much, either way, from the overall fleet of vehicles. This is because "inattentive driving" is _rarely_ the cause of fatalities on the road. The winner there is, and probably always will be, Alcohol.

> The winner there is, and probably always will be, Alcohol.

I'd imagine mobile device use will overtake alcohol soon enough

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I'm astonished at how long Musk has been able to keep his autonomous driving con going. He has been lying about it to inflate Tesla shares for 10 years now.

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It "works" if you mean often does incredibly stupid and dangerous things and requires a person to be ready to take over for it at any moment to prevent a crash. So far no Tesla car has ever legally driven even a single mile without a person in the driver's seat.

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I'm astonished at how long Musk has been able to keep his autonomous driving con going. He has been lying about it to inflate Tesla shares for 10 years now.

Just because it has taken 10 years longer than promised doesn't mean that it will never happen. FSD has made huge improvements this year and is on track to keep up the current pace so it actually does seem closer than ever.

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> making 4 report crashes and 1 reported fatality for 2.4 million vehicles over 8 years look miniscule by comparison, that's the wrong comparison the correct comparison is the number of report crashes and fatalities for __unsupervised FSD__ miles driven (not counting Tesla pilot tests, but actual customers)

That seems like a bit of a chicken and egg problem where the software is not allowed to go unsupervised until it racks up a few million miles of successful unsupervised driving.

There's a number of state programs to solve this problem with testing permits. The manufacturer puts up a bond and does testing in a limited area, sending reports on any incidents to the state regulator. The largest of these, California's, has several dozen companies with testing permits.

Tesla currently does not participate in any of these programs.

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Historically, hydro has prevented for more CO2 than nuclear by a wide margin. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-prod-source-s... Looking forward Nuclear isn’t moving the needle. Solar grew more in 2023 alone than nuclear has grown since 1995. Worse nuclear can’t ramp up significantly in the next decade simply due to construction bottlenecks. 40 years ago nuclear could have played a larger role, but we wa…

That just goes to show how incredibly short sighted humanity is. We new about the risk of massive CO2 emissions from burning fossil fuels but just ignored it while irrationally demonizing nuclear energy because it is scawy. If humans were sane and able to plan earth would be getting 100% of all electricity from super-efficient 7th generation nuclear reactors.

I agree costs could have dropped significantly, but I doubt 100% nuclear was ever going to happen.

Large scale dams will exist to store water, tacking hydroelectric on top of them is incredibly cost effective. Safety wise dams are seriously dangerous, but they also save a shocking number of lives by reducing flooding.

Re: US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

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I worked in 18 a wheeler automation unicorn. Never rode in one once for a reason.

Automate the transfer yards, shipping docks, and trucking terminals. Make movement of cargo across these limited use areas entirely automated and as smooth as butter. Queue drivers up and have their loads automatically placed up front so they can drop and hook in a few minutes and get back on the road. I honestly think that's the _easier_ problem to solve by at least two orders of magnitude.

Did you miss the news about the recent strike by the very people you are suggesting to eliminate? This automation was one of the points of contention.

Solving the problem might not be as easy as you suggest as long as their are powerful unions involved

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