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Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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Mullenweg just keeps digging. He is the only person I have ever seen interacting in such a petty manner that he made a company backed by Private Equity look like a victim. If Trademark was the issue, why did it take him over a decade ? Why is he not going after all the other gazillion WP providers that use similar phrase on their website ? We all know the answer. The only company (WP Engine) that beat his for profit…

Tinfoil theory: Matt is actually paid by or invested in Silver Lake/WPE and using his position to tank the foundation on their behalf. Then WPE is actually king WP, and a new OSS foundation must rise from the ashes and they'll be there as trusted, responsible party to select the leaders

I admit, this is pretty far-fetched, and I don't even believe it, but I'd say the same thing about the whole affair

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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I don't know about you but I would be more frustrated not being able to revise posts? It's bad enough on twitter I can't update my posts, I have to delete and repost

I can't speak for blogging usecases, but for agency websites we would disable revisions and a bunch of other things for every single wordpress installation(even the blog posts that show up on the main admin area) Heck even Jetpack, Automattics official plugin, recommends limiting revisions: https://jetpack.com/blog/wordpress-revisions/ Lastly, Wpengine never fully disabled post revisions, they just limited it to 2-3.

> Lastly, Wpengine never fully disabled post revisions, they just limited it to 2-3.

Not quite. https://wpengine.com/support/platform-settings/#Post_Revisio...

"Every WP Engine site has WordPress revisions disabled by default... Revisions can only be enabled by contacting Support... Support can help you enable 3 revisions for your posts to start. Revisions should not exceed 5."

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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post #17

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"Maybe he's right about WP Engine, but the way he has and continues to handle everything has been disastrous." This is the best single line distillation of the current lunacy. I mean with every passing day, it all becomes more and more unhinged, and I see no good outcome in the long term. The overall damage to the ecosystem I think begins it's death spiral now. It's a boon for competitors I suppose, but that's about…

I think revealed in this is that Matt has no understanding of the Wordpress userbase, and bizarre unpopular features like Gravitar and Gutenberg now make more sense in hindsight. ACF was one of the most important enterprise plugins in the ecosystem when they hijacked it. They essentially did a supply chain attack on the top WordPress users and expected there to be no repercussions. He was also apparently upset that W…

Gravitar isn't such a terrible idea, just look at how successful something like Linktree is. The problem with Matt's ventures in general is that they're half-assed. Wordpress.com sucks compared to Wix.com. Gutenberg sucks compared to Webflow, etc. Even WordPress sucks as a CMS which is why people even needed stuff like ACF in the first place. Like why in 2024 any CMS wouldn't have that functionality baked in makes no sense to me, unless as you say you just think of it as a blogging platform like it's 2004.

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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Reddit is much worse today than before the exodus, it is recovering and maybe it will eventually fully recover. The issue with the Reddit exodus is that people fled to various different platforms and not just one. Plus some people likely just stopped using social media. This shattering to various different platforms stopped the momentum from totally killing Reddit. And maybe the same will also project WordPress. I am…

Yeah, entire parts of reddit have been hollowed out and a lot of the subs have changed in many ways. I don't enjoy using reddit any more, even as someone who mostly didn't care about the protest.

Apollo was the only reason I could tolerate Reddit. I only wanted to use Reddit on my phone, and most other apps were meh at best (especially the official app, eww). When Reddit pulled the API crap and Apollo officially shut down, I left and haven’t gone back. As someone who spent hours a day on Reddit, I had no qualms leaving.

As someone who worked years in the Wordpress space, I’m feeling the same about never touching it again which is a shame. I’ve enjoyed the projects, I’ve enjoyed contributing to the WP Stack Exchange and helping other people, and I’m done.

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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One important people to keep in mind as they read this post, the linked Google Doc, and tweets from the past day where a bunch of people are receiving unsolicited DMs[1] from Automattic with grammar that matches Matt's: - Matt, under various guises, is shifting blame to different entities that are effectively himself. - Automattic is Matt. Matt is the CEO of Automattic. - The WordPress Foundation is, effectively, Mat…

This is pure speculation, the WP saga makes me wonder if Mullenweg may be under the influence of Adderall or some other similar drug. Whether he's "right" or "wrong", this is a list of Adderall side effects that seem to match Mullenweg's behavior: * Increased Sociability: More outgoing and talkative. * Risk-Taking Behavior: Engaging in impulsive or risky actions. * Reduced Inhibition: Less self-consciousness, more ex…

I take Adderall, and those side effects are extreme imo. If it’s actually adderall, he’s taking way too much.

Thing is, Adderall is an amphetamine, and there’s a more likely culprit for those with lots of money: cocaine.

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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post #103

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The harsh truth that DHH made a ton of money but did not choose to dedicate his life to become filthy rich but instead also focused on making the world a better place through open source? I am no fan of DHH but I do not see any harsh truths.

This is an uncharitable take. An alternative one would be that DHH had ideas and works that could've been much more successful that would let him hire people that would further the goals of OSS. That he could have had companies with corporate values that are more distinct from companies whose goals are purely to extract value for their shareholders.

More successful than Rails? A technology which changed the whole industry?

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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Thanks. Good to know that there are decent hosts to choose from, that help support WP by paying licensing/service fees.

They don't "support WP". All the fees are going to Automattic, as was revealed in term sheet Matt himself shared. The "volunteers" on the WP project that approve all of the work and revisions are full time Automattic employees. The work that the Foundation does primarily benefits Automattic. There is nothing to even support besides Automattic.

You are contradicting yourself.

The money goes to the company that employs the people that work on WP... soooo, the better Automattic does, the better it is for WP.

Re: Is Matt Mullenweg defending WordPress or sabotaging it?

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post #144

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I think revealed in this is that Matt has no understanding of the Wordpress userbase, and bizarre unpopular features like Gravitar and Gutenberg now make more sense in hindsight. ACF was one of the most important enterprise plugins in the ecosystem when they hijacked it. They essentially did a supply chain attack on the top WordPress users and expected there to be no repercussions. He was also apparently upset that W…

Gravitar isn't such a terrible idea, just look at how successful something like Linktree is. The problem with Matt's ventures in general is that they're half-assed. Wordpress.com sucks compared to Wix.com. Gutenberg sucks compared to Webflow, etc. Even WordPress sucks as a CMS which is why people even needed stuff like ACF in the first place. Like why in 2024 any CMS wouldn't have that functionality baked in makes no…

People often attack Wordpress because it’s not sufficiently current in its core. That’s actually a strength. Wordpress wouldn’t be such a large part of the web if it had been rewritten in every once hip language (Ruby etc) or tried to incorporate fad. Wordpress is a boon because it’s a solid base with massive support and institutional knowledge that can be built in in any way you imagine. It’s totally free to use if you know what you are doing and you can create almost anything with it. Wordpress will be here when the platforms you mention are gone. Does that make it quirky, less immediate and harder to use sometimes? Yes. Thats the price you pay for access.
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