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Cargo Airships Are Happening

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Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure about how they solve customs, but the picture shows an airship dropping cargo directly off at a warehouse (avoiding trucks).

How will the airship and its cargo clear customs at a random warehouse with presumably no staffing of border agents?

Implementation details /s

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How will the airship and its cargo clear customs at a random warehouse with presumably no staffing of border agents?

Not that I put any credence into the idea in the article, but for your particular question, the same way it occurs now at airports - bonded warehouses.

Which airports have bonded warehouses but do not already host customs facilities or agents?

I think that has to come after, not before.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#143

> "But for air freight service, end-to-end delivery takes a week or more, involving multiple parties: in addition to the air carrier and freight forwarder, at both the origin and destination, there is a trucking company, a warehouse, a customs broker, and an airport. Each touchpoint adds cost, delay, and the risk of theft or breakage." How does an airship solve any of those problems? Its still got to go through custo…

I'm not sure about how they solve customs, but the picture shows an airship dropping cargo directly off at a warehouse (avoiding trucks).

> but the picture shows an airship dropping cargo directly off at a warehouse

Yeah, and that shit isn't going to happen either for a bazillion $very_good_reasons.

Not least safety.

I mean, yeah, let's just turn up at a densely populated environment and use a winch to long-line drop a few tons of cargo.

Whilst the general public and employees are walking around the place ?

When there's overhead cabling around ?

Even in perfect weather, with no wind, no rain, its still a dumb-as-shit idea.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#144
post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How will the airship and its cargo clear customs at a random warehouse with presumably no staffing of border agents?

Maybe it's still a customs/border facility. It can just be inland now, away from the very expensive waterfront/costal property

Would that inland facility still have a 100 mile jurisdiction boundary around it as well?

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#145

> "But for air freight service, end-to-end delivery takes a week or more, involving multiple parties: in addition to the air carrier and freight forwarder, at both the origin and destination, there is a trucking company, a warehouse, a customs broker, and an airport. Each touchpoint adds cost, delay, and the risk of theft or breakage." How does an airship solve any of those problems? Its still got to go through custo…

This already happens, has happened for ages, and yet somehow the logistics industry manages to accomplish transshipment without fucking everything up . . . most of the time, anyway.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#146
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The (biggest) problem that keeps airships from practical use is that they are huge sails. Big sails mean even small amounts of wind can be powerful forces acting on the airship. In the air a big push from the wind might be safely managed, but if you're near anything solid such as the ground, you can get smashed to bits. To safely operate a suitably efficient (large) airship, we'd need both huge specialized docks with…

Just cover the thing in solar, and run it on electric. Add a couple of wind turbines too. I mean, the whole concept is preposterous, so why not just lean into it?

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#147

> "But for air freight service, end-to-end delivery takes a week or more, involving multiple parties: in addition to the air carrier and freight forwarder, at both the origin and destination, there is a trucking company, a warehouse, a customs broker, and an airport. Each touchpoint adds cost, delay, and the risk of theft or breakage." How does an airship solve any of those problems? Its still got to go through custo…

It doesn’t. The author is dreaming that airships might be able to just drop cargo off anywhere and I guess customs just happens in software somehow.

Nor is it clear how they are refuelled, or how they are immune from the same fluctuations in fuel cost as conventional cargo aircraft.

But what is clear is that you should “possibly invest” in his syndicate which is funding all this…

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#148
post #6

The (biggest) problem that keeps airships from practical use is that they are huge sails. Big sails mean even small amounts of wind can be powerful forces acting on the airship. In the air a big push from the wind might be safely managed, but if you're near anything solid such as the ground, you can get smashed to bits. To safely operate a suitably efficient (large) airship, we'd need both huge specialized docks with…

> what do you do when you drop off your cargo and the airship wants to shoot up into the air? Vent gas? Rapidly compress your gas?

As long as it's just one small bubble with hydrogen, you can flare it off or combine with oxygen from the air outside to reduce lift.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#149

This reads as a technologist that has absolutely no clue about anything regarding the shipping or the logistics industry. I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction.

"I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction."

What IS spent on new ships globally, and what direction does it point in?

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#150

This reads as a technologist that has absolutely no clue about anything regarding the shipping or the logistics industry. I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction.

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