I wonder if the code would be a bit cleaner if they dropped IE9 and year-old Firefox / Chrome / Safari support too. That would allow them to use new stuff like XMLHttpRequest 2, ECMAScript 5 Strict Mode, Typed Arrays, requestAnimationFrame and CSS transitions / animations.
JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
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Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
The premise is that jQuery 1.9 and 2.0 are API-compatible, so you can do something like: New browsers will get a lighter download and a faster runtime. oldIE will still work with all the hacks required to make it work.
We deal with enough conditionals already. Besides, sharing the same API won't stop you from bumping into some bug that's present in one version and not the other. We'll have to deal with two codebases. Download and runtime speed are not a problem on the Desktop. They should have had the guts to admit that this is all about mobile. Their denial at the end of the post is symptomatic.
If you don't like conditionals, then don't use them. Stick with 1.9 or 1.8
Download and runtime are absolutely a problem on the desktop. There will always be a decent amount of people on unreliable connections and mobile devices with slow processors
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#143This is a retarded decision which I do not support. IE6 fine, IE7 fine but not IE8. IE8 is required for most corporate environments where they haven't killed of Windows XP yet. That is a surprisingly large amount of people. If this happens, we'll fork jQuery 1.9 and support it separately.
2 will come out in 2013 just a bit before Microsoft officially removes all support for XP. If your IT department hasn't made moves to upgrade everyone from XP by this point you have bigger issues to deal with than jQuery availability.
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#144Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#145This is a retarded decision which I do not support. IE6 fine, IE7 fine but not IE8. IE8 is required for most corporate environments where they haven't killed of Windows XP yet. That is a surprisingly large amount of people. If this happens, we'll fork jQuery 1.9 and support it separately.
2 will come out in 2013 just a bit before Microsoft officially removes all support for XP. If your IT department hasn't made moves to upgrade everyone from XP by this point you have bigger issues to deal with than jQuery availability.
Forced obsolescence doesn't mean people aren't still using it and it doesn't mean that because Microsoft stop patching that it's still vulnerable. Using it after April 2014 is not a problem.
The NHS in the UK has over 1 million Windows XP deployments out there still on NHSnet which is a nationwide secure private WAN. A lot of software vendors have to support that.
Your view is popular but naive.
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#146All this talk about IE usage numbers led me to a website Microsoft made to say goodbye to IE6: http://www.ie6countdown.com/
The site reports that in the US, IE6 has 0.6% market share — relatively nothing. But look over at China: 22.4% of its 500 million Internet users still browse with IE6. Moving forward benefits the Internet as a whole, but the Chinese market is one instance where backward compatibility is important.
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
2 will come out in 2013 just a bit before Microsoft officially removes all support for XP. If your IT department hasn't made moves to upgrade everyone from XP by this point you have bigger issues to deal with than jQuery availability.
Forced obsolescence doesn't mean people aren't still using it and it doesn't mean that because Microsoft stop patching that it's still vulnerable. Using it after April 2014 is not a problem. The NHS in the UK has over 1 million Windows XP deployments out there still on NHSnet which is a nationwide secure private WAN. A lot of software vendors have to support that. Your view is popular but naive.
Ok how about this then. If you're still supporting an unsupported OS why do you care about using the cutting edge version of a JS library?
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#148All this talk about IE usage numbers led me to a website Microsoft made to say goodbye to IE6: http://www.ie6countdown.com/ The site reports that in the US, IE6 has 0.6% market share — relatively nothing. But look over at China: 22.4% of its 500 million Internet users still browse with IE6. Moving forward benefits the Internet as a whole, but the Chinese market is one instance where backward compatibility is importan…
I grew up in China and this is def true. IE6 is still popular in China is because a lot of banks and governments website only works in IE(6). Since banks are state owned, they don't have incentive to compete to make their site better.
I think the only hope is to wait till their computers die and when they install new windows IE6 will be gone.
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Forced obsolescence doesn't mean people aren't still using it and it doesn't mean that because Microsoft stop patching that it's still vulnerable. Using it after April 2014 is not a problem. The NHS in the UK has over 1 million Windows XP deployments out there still on NHSnet which is a nationwide secure private WAN. A lot of software vendors have to support that. Your view is popular but naive.
Ok how about this then. If you're still supporting an unsupported OS why do you care about using the cutting edge version of a JS library?
Yeah this is exactly the thing. It's not like 1.9 or 1.8 or even 1.4 will stop working in the future when the new versions are released.
I duplicated a project for a client today that needed a one-page form and a two-page admin section, and I have only a couple of hours of budget to make it work. They don't care that it's running jQuery 1.3.x. It's working fine.
Re: JQuery 2.0 Drops Support for IE6/7/8; API-Compatible with jQuery 1.9.
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know what? At this point I'm not sure it's worth catering to people who "don't even know what a browser is." They've had nearly 20 years to hop on the bandwagon and start understanding this crazy "internet" thing, and they haven't. A person that behind the times isn't going to buy anything on the internet anyway.
That works fine for your blog, but what percentage of customers are you willing to turn away from your web business?
Ever heard the notion of "opportunity cost"?