I don't need the TTS part, but love how they create the text as a dialog between two non-expert humans. Any idea what a prompt for that would look like?
NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
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Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't do this. A friend did this to me, and after listening to it, I suddenly realized it was AI vomit. My friend wasted an hour of my attention, and I didn't appreciate it.
If it was vomit, why did you spend an hour on it? People complain about 2 minutes of audio sometimes, I cannot imagine a full hour of an unknown podcast, it must have been quite interesting.
I read some of your other replies and I can't quite get a read on your line of reasoning.
The issue is we would give less attention to these things if it wasn't for the social credit the humans gave the vomit. So we engage in good faith and it turns out it was effectively a prank, and we have no choice but to value requests from those people less now because it was clear they didn't care about our response.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#143Podcasts and chat are interesting, but the real potential in this would be to synthesize new documents from the inputs. Apply the information gleaned from the study materials to a user scenario and output a new work of fiction.
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#144I just created the example podcast about the Bitcoin Whitepaper in NotebookLM:
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/9cf789be-1052-404b-8d...
And after, generated notes from the podcast:
https://podscribe.io/content/podcasts/101/episode/1727685408...
The podcast was exciting, however not really went to too much details.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think and hope that you're wrong. There's always been cheese, and there's a lot of it now. But there is still a market for top-notch insight. For example, Perun. This guy delivers an hourlong presentation on (mostly) the Ukraine-Russia war and its pure quality. Insights, humour, excellent delivery, from what seems to be a military-focused economist/analyst/consultant. We're a while away from some bot taking this ki…
Different strokes for different folks... We all seek different kinds of quality; I don't find Peruns videos to have any quality except volume. He reads bullet points he has prepared, and makes predictable dad jokes in monotone, re-uses and reruns the same points, icons, slides, etc. Just personally, I find it really samey and some of the reporting has been delayed so much it's entirely detached from the ground by the…
I think the main problem with Peruns' videos are that they are videos. I run a little program on my home-lab that turns them into podcasts and I find that I enjoy them far more because I need to be less engaged with a podcast to still find them enjoyable. (Also, I gave up on being up to date with Ukraine situation, since up to date information is almost always wrong. I am happy to be a week or a 14 days behind if the information I am getting is less wrong).
I like Hardcore history very much, but I think it would be far worse in a video form.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the same question I have. There is already a ton of great podcasts/music/everything in the niches that I like that I don't have the time to listen to them all. I also like to have quiet introspective time. So where does AI regurgitated slop fit into my life?
In the case of NotebookLM, the AI generated podcasts aren't competing with existing podcasts, they're competing with other ways of consuming the source material. Would I rather listen to a real podcast? Yes. But no one's making a real podcast about the Bluetooth L2CAP specification.
All podcasts compete for peopled time and attention.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#147I uploaded my detailed game design document for a project I've been working on in my free time and it was kind of a weird confidence boost. The two hosts seem to treat ideas like their the most insightful relevatory information they've ever heard. After a few uploads of other documents you start to notice the same overly surprised tone.
This seems to be a common trait of a lot of the more "aligned", "helpful" LLMs out there. You can drop any random excerpt from your diary into ChatGPT and it will tell you about how brilliant, sensitive, and witty you are. It's really quite sickening.
How is it sickening? Tell it to roast you if you think it's a problem.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it was vomit, why did you spend an hour on it? People complain about 2 minutes of audio sometimes, I cannot imagine a full hour of an unknown podcast, it must have been quite interesting.
I read some of your other replies and I can't quite get a read on your line of reasoning. The issue is we would give less attention to these things if it wasn't for the social credit the humans gave the vomit. So we engage in good faith and it turns out it was effectively a prank, and we have no choice but to value requests from those people less now because it was clear they didn't care about our response.
No one listens to an hour of actual vomit just because a friend sent it to them, you should value your time more if you do at minimum.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#149NotebookLM's is incredibly good at generating the affect and structure of a quality podcast. This is in-line with all art, music, and video created by LMM at the moment. They are imitating a structure and affect, the quality of the content is largely irrelevant. I think the interesting thing is that most people don't really care, and AI is not to blame for that. Most books published today have the affect of a book, b…
> Most books published today have the affect of a book, but the author doesn't really have anything to say
This has been the case as far back as I began reading books which is about 30 years.
Re: NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surprisingly effective
#150NotebookLM's is incredibly good at generating the affect and structure of a quality podcast. This is in-line with all art, music, and video created by LMM at the moment. They are imitating a structure and affect, the quality of the content is largely irrelevant. I think the interesting thing is that most people don't really care, and AI is not to blame for that. Most books published today have the affect of a book, b…
The same could be said of most technical blogs, they are just marketing content to sell a company service...Miss the old Internet...