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Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by LeroyRaz »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #117
Lonestar1440 wrote: post #81

This is no way to run a state. The Democrat-dominated legislature passes everything that comes before it (and rejects anything that the GOP touches, in committee) and then the Governor needs to veto the looniest 20% of them to keep us from falling into total chaos. This AI bill was far from the worst one. "Vote out the legislators!" but for who... the Republican party? And we don't even get a choice on the general ba…

If California was it's own country, it would be one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric.

The state has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the whole country (28%). To me, that implies they have some issue of governance.

Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy...

To be fair in the comparison, the literacy statistics for the whole of the US are pretty shocking from a European perspective.

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #117
Lonestar1440 wrote: post #81

This is no way to run a state. The Democrat-dominated legislature passes everything that comes before it (and rejects anything that the GOP touches, in committee) and then the Governor needs to veto the looniest 20% of them to keep us from falling into total chaos. This AI bill was far from the worst one. "Vote out the legislators!" but for who... the Republican party? And we don't even get a choice on the general ba…

If California was it's own country, it would be one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric.

California is the largest recipient of federal money.

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-rely-the-most-on-...

(I know by population it will be different, but the argument here is around 'one of the the biggest' which is not a per capita statement.)

> Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric

You can apply the same logic to USA.

USA is one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many countries that are far worse off in any key metric.

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by hydrox24 »

LeroyRaz wrote: post #141
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If California was it's own country, it would be one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric.

The state has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the whole country (28%). To me, that implies they have some issue of governance. Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy... To be fair in the comparison, the literacy statistics for the whole of the US are pretty shocking from a European perspective.

For any others reading this, the _illiteracy_ rate is 23.1% in California according to the parent's source. This is indeed the highest illiteracy rate in the US thought.

Having said that, I would have thought this was partially a measure of migration. Perhaps illegal migration?

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by 0_____0 »

LeroyRaz wrote: post #141
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If California was it's own country, it would be one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric.

The state has one of the highest illiteracy rates in the whole country (28%). To me, that implies they have some issue of governance. Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/us-literacy... To be fair in the comparison, the literacy statistics for the whole of the US are pretty shocking from a European perspective.

The data you're showing doesn't appear to differentiate between "Can read English" and "Can read in some language". Big immigrant population, same with New York. Having grown up in California I can tell you that there aren't 28% of kids coming out of public school who can't read anything.

Edit to add: my own hometown had a lot of people who couldn't speak English. Lots of elderly mothers of Chinese immigrants whose adult children were in STEM and whose own kids were headed to uni. Not to say that's representative, but consider that a single percentage stat won't give you an accurate picture of what's going on.

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by nashashmi »

toephu2 wrote: post #136
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If California was it's own country, it would be one of the biggest most successful countries in the world. Like every where else it has it's problems but it's being run just fine. Objectively, there are many states that are far worse off in any key metric.

> but it's being run just fine As a Californian I have to disagree. The only reason you think it's being run just fine is because of the success of the private sector. The only reason California would be the 4th/5th largest economy in the world is because of the the tech industry and other industries that are in California (Hollywood, agriculture, etc). It's not because we have some awesome efficiently run state gove…

Do you mean to say that the government was deeply underwater a few years ago? And the state marred by forest fires that it was frightening to see if it could ever come back ?

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by phatfish »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #135
shortrounddev2 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd much rather be poor in California than poor in mississippi

You say that, but being poor where everyone else is poor is generally better than being poor where you are surrounded by wealth.

So people are better off being poor in South America or North Africa, than being poor in the US or Europe?

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by dredmorbius »

Lonestar1440 wrote: post #81

This is no way to run a state. The Democrat-dominated legislature passes everything that comes before it (and rejects anything that the GOP touches, in committee) and then the Governor needs to veto the looniest 20% of them to keep us from falling into total chaos. This AI bill was far from the worst one. "Vote out the legislators!" but for who... the Republican party? And we don't even get a choice on the general ba…

Thankfully there are no such similarly single-party states elsewhere in the Union dominated by another party, and if they were, their executives would similarly veto the most inane legislation passed.

Re: Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047

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Post by LarsDu88 »

Terrible piece of legislation. Glad the governor took it down. This is what regulatory capture looks like. Someone commoditized your product, so you make it illegal for them to continue making your stuff free.

Might as well make Linux illegal so everyone is forced to use Microsoft and Apple.

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