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post #135

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I disagree. I am happy the Internet Archive are fighting the draconian copy right laws that exist.

But the arena for that fight is legislation. Weed didn't become legal through lawsuits, it became legal because laws were repealed. I hope IA prevails but it's long shot, even more with the Heritage infestation of the courts.

Again, disagree. The copyright trolls need to be fought in the courts as well.

Obviously the law needs to be changed.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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It matters because the HN crowd maybe small when it comes consumer products , but is a dominant factor for cloud purchases. Having been burnt too many times with Google products[1] I try not use their offerings on the cloud many decision makers are here who will worry about similar issues. If Google wants to be serious about Cloud then they need to be serious about long term support. Microsoft in the win 3 /9x days t…

Google cache had what, 15 years of support, with no promises ever? I think of all the google.products, that's pretty good. Inbox still hurts though, but not as much as google music

It is hard to recommend Google Cloud https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41614795

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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I hardly use Google search anymore. I think Google search wil also be dead soo .

For long time I had to suffix "reddit", to every search query I make because of absolute garbage results I get from Google of blogspam and adverts everywhere.

Now I only use LLMs and maybe perplexity sometimes.

Unfortunately, Google's time is over.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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This a shame. It's really annoying getting a Google result snippet that contains your search phrase, but when you click the link is nowhere to be found in the content of the page (e.g. because sever rendered differently for you than the crawl agent).

Cache was a great way to find what you're actually looking for in cases like these.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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Mozilla via Firefox thought the same thing. They removed feature after feature, each feature only used by a tiny fraction of a percent. But all those features were what drew users, power users especially. And users each had their own featured reasons to love Firefox. Now look at them. Most used browser to nothing. There are other reasons too, but what Firefox did was remove what was special about them.

> Most used browser to nothing. Feel free to criticize Mozilla all you like, but this is a prime example of myopic tech-bubble thinking that is being decried elsewhere in this thread. Firefox market share declined first because Google used their market position to advertise Chrome for free on what was then the most valuable web real estate in the world (the Google home page), then because they paid software installer…

Firefox market share declined first because Google used their market position to advertise Chrome

Yes, indeed. This may or may not have been wrong of Google, however this is also called "competition". And what did Mozilla do?

It flinched.

Many users loved Firefox, and disliked that Chrome had barely any ability to customize anything when released. It was literally years before you could change even the most basic things about the interface. When released, almost nothing could be configured about it, and it was a far cry from Firefox's ability to give the user what they wanted.

Firefox's response to Chrome's minor speed improvements? Was to literally begin a campaign to become the enemy. Firefox devs worked diligently to make Firefox a second rate clone of Chrome. They removed features, configuration, the ability to modify the interface, and more.

Mozilla could have so easily kept all that configurability, its strong point, its unique factor, but instead panicked. And in doing so it rendered itself incapable of competing on any footing.

Put another way, yes Google had vast resources. Yet this is precisely why you never compete on the same footing as them. You instead compete on what they do not have.

And that was the ability to theme Firefox, to configure it as you wanted, to turn off features you did not want, and more. Chrome had none of this initially. And Google is literally famous for, and incapable of listening to users. They're not built for it. Mozilla was.

And they threw all those strengths away, the only way they could compete with Chrome.

So yes, there were things they could have done. And yes, endless people told them that in bug reports, in emails to them, and more. If anyone's thinking here is myopic (great personal attack, btw), it was Mozilla's.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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post #115

One fewer reason to use Google search. Solid effort killing the money printer all around.

One more reason to not use Google search, I don't remember when it was the last time I used it, perhaps like twelve years ago.

Do any other versions provide cached versions of the pages they crawl? Far too many sites preform shinanigins based on geoip/ua.

Yandex, DuckDuckGo, and BraveSearch, please provide cache the pages you crawl and make them available to your users.

Re: Google Cache is fully dead

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post #109

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The original concept was great for some things, sure. I bought an OG Chromecast over a decade ago. It was a one-trick pony: Push "cast" button on pocket computer, and whatever I was doing there would show up on the BFT. Which is great, you know, for a person who lives alone and never has visitors: One can select an item from the slick interface provided by the service they subscribe to on their amazing personal compu…

I can see how that works for you, but it’s a lot simpler for us. If I picked the movie then I pause it when someone asks. If my wife picked the movie then she pauses it.

With a Real Remote Control (that nobody owns except for the coffee table that nobody owns): Anyone involved in a group viewing can just push the pause button when that is useful for one or more members of that group.

Nobody's locked-down personal pocket computer needs to be involved at all for this most mundane task.

Simplicity.

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