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Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by nick3443 »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #67
dijit wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is extremely well articulated, and is exactly true in my experience. People take gossip as "gossip"- an unrealiable approximation and gross-oversimplification of an individual. Thus give people with poor reputations the benefit of the doubt, believing themselves to be open minded. (which is true). When they are shown just how 1-dimensional some people can actually be , and that the gossip depicts people precisel…

Idi Amin could be quite charming. Same for another dictator, who will not be mentioned, at the risk of Godwining the conversation. He could talk to a family, leave them smitten and hopeful, then whisper "Kill them" to the guard, on his way out.

Just think about the exceptionally gifted "10x" engineers we all meet from time to time. There are people equally gifted in charisma and manipulation, they can predict what people are feeling and steer them where they want them with high success rates. This is what I think of whenever I see a politician on video or meet one in person.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by markus_zhang »

sonofhans wrote: post #5

> “The report, which IGN can confirm based on conversations with our own sources, states that Annapurna Interactive president Nathan Gary had recently been in negotiations with Annapurna founder and billionaire Megan Ellison to spin the gaming segment off as its own company. However, Ellison eventually pulled out of negotiations, at which point Gary resigned. Almost 30 other individuals, including division co-heads D…

This is what people with talents should do if they don't agree with the super riches who don't do anything substantial but inherit a shit ton of money.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by oneepic »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #19

I hope whatever entity these people reform has the same magic. Every single game they published had something unique. Outer Wilds, Telling Lies, Twelve Minutes, Edit Finch, Neon White, etc. They didn't develop these games, but they have an eye for talent.

I would add a couple games that moved me (Hindsight, A Memoir Blue). but I also have to mention not all of their titles are smash hits IMO -- I disliked Florence, Last Stop, If Found, and Open Roads.

That said, I agree that their good games have made me a fan, and I hope the original staff keeps going in some form.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by markus_zhang »

Aeolun wrote: post #70
dijit wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is extremely well articulated, and is exactly true in my experience. People take gossip as "gossip"- an unrealiable approximation and gross-oversimplification of an individual. Thus give people with poor reputations the benefit of the doubt, believing themselves to be open minded. (which is true). When they are shown just how 1-dimensional some people can actually be , and that the gossip depicts people precisel…

It’s why I now doubt the motives of all people that seem too personable :/

"Motives are rarely unselfish". That's good enough.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by kbelder »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #11
sonofhans wrote: post #5

> “The report, which IGN can confirm based on conversations with our own sources, states that Annapurna Interactive president Nathan Gary had recently been in negotiations with Annapurna founder and billionaire Megan Ellison to spin the gaming segment off as its own company. However, Ellison eventually pulled out of negotiations, at which point Gary resigned. Almost 30 other individuals, including division co-heads D…

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I agree with you about IGN's quality, but I think it's not necessarily your opinion that's generating the downvotes, but the tone.

IGN being disconnected from the tastes and preferences of gamers? Almost inarguable. Letting political opinions of the journalists have huge sway over game reviews and scores? I'd say that is inarguable.

But you'll get downvoted when you type a post on HN that seems like you're getting excited while typing.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by markus_zhang »

ben7799 wrote: post #104
toyg wrote: post #41

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That rant is famous, but I always wonder at the naivety of Cantrill and friends. Ellison was already known for being a shameless shark since the '80s, 20 years before the SUN acquisition. Believing he would leave your little blade of grass untouched was always going to be fanciful - particularly when they were a loss-making part of the company with no-future already.

Yah.. it was well known but when it happens to you it's hard to really not try to be open minded. That is why his rant is so famous. I was rolled up into Oracle through a series of acquisitions a few years before Sun.. it all went down the same way. You know what's going to happen but it's still a shock when a manager you knew before you joined Oracle and wouldn't have behaved the Oracle way instructs you to lie to a…

Well at least he has been honest. Honesty is a luxury merchandise you can purchase with a few billion dollars for sure.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

Good for them!

There's a lot to be said about certain large publishers but this publisher's list of games includes some very good titles. Just knowing they worked with the developers to release certain titles makes me very interested to see who they'll work with next. They seem like a group who will become a household name with a little luck in their marketing.

I understand why Annapurna would not want to spin off such a successful division but it sounds like the only leverage they had was existing IP, which the employees probably understand as a sunk cost. I'm glad they were all able to realize they could just do what they do under a different name; I get the feeling the developers they've worked with will remember them and they know it.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by hinkley »

toyg wrote: post #41
robjwells wrote: post #29

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For those who don’t get the lawnmower reference, take 5 minutes and have a hearty laugh: https://youtube.com/watch?t=1980&v=-zRN7XLCRhc (Start at the 33 minute mark if it doesn’t jump you there.)

That rant is famous, but I always wonder at the naivety of Cantrill and friends. Ellison was already known for being a shameless shark since the '80s, 20 years before the SUN acquisition. Believing he would leave your little blade of grass untouched was always going to be fanciful - particularly when they were a loss-making part of the company with no-future already.

I thought Sun was just a little misguided and naive and then they sold to Ellison and I realized they were a bunch of fucking morons. WHY? WHY DID YOU DO THIS??

Cantrill and friends just worked there, but the board presumably knew what they were doing.

There was a Wired article that told me everything I needed to know about Larry, the way your blind date being mean to the waiter tells you not to make a second date. It was about the best smart homes. It came out during the DotCom boom, before Sun folded. Larry had one of the smartest homes in America. It had a remote control. One Saturday evening, the article reports, he got furious with the system because it wasn’t working, so he threw the remote and smashed it.

Then he called the company and demanded a new one. Someone had to drive, 45 minutes if memory serves, to his house to deliver a new remote, on their Saturday night, because some petulant man-child had a temper tantrum and couldn’t wait until Monday.

Fuck that guy.

How much of a pain in the ass you have to be in the interview process for a writer to drop that anecdote into the article? You know we are only getting part of that story.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by hinkley »

dijit wrote: post #48
Macha wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's plenty of people who the internet or gossip circles hate where that hate is unjustified. At the same time, a lot of the worst people are initially quite personally charming and keep that face even as they screw you over. And I think when people come into contact that they've only heard about in gossip in person, there's quite often an attempt to be like "well that's the caricature of Larry Ellison, ma…

This is extremely well articulated, and is exactly true in my experience. People take gossip as "gossip"- an unrealiable approximation and gross-oversimplification of an individual. Thus give people with poor reputations the benefit of the doubt, believing themselves to be open minded. (which is true). When they are shown just how 1-dimensional some people can actually be , and that the gossip depicts people precisel…

I joke that Larry is from that evil Star Trek universe and somewhere in the multiverse a clean-shaven, teddy bear of a man is trapped in a universe full of assholes because he was tricked into swapping with this Larry.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by hinkley »

markus_zhang wrote: post #146
ben7799 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yah.. it was well known but when it happens to you it's hard to really not try to be open minded. That is why his rant is so famous. I was rolled up into Oracle through a series of acquisitions a few years before Sun.. it all went down the same way. You know what's going to happen but it's still a shock when a manager you knew before you joined Oracle and wouldn't have behaved the Oracle way instructs you to lie to a…

Well at least he has been honest. Honesty is a luxury merchandise you can purchase with a few billion dollars for sure.

To be a billionaire you need colluders.
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