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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by pazimzadeh »

saurik wrote: post #97
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

you don't have to upgrade, but it used to be tempting

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by thih9 »

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> "all done on device" and on cloud

The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by brookst »

nabaraz wrote: post #48

I remember people lining up outside apple stores on the pre-order day. What has happened now? Have we seen the peak of smartphones until something new comes along and spur a new super-cycle?

Upgrades in mature markets are less exciting than in new markets. See: how exciting the 2024 Corolla is compared to the 2023.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jncfhnb »

reliableturing wrote: post #104
minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

I agree but I already planned to upgrade to a 16 Pro up from my 12. Biggest thing I’m looking forward to? Battery life. In the announcement they said “big boost”, and looking at the comparison page I will go from 17h video playback to 27h. That’s not even including the battery degradation I built up in the last 4 years. I’m practically going to double my battery life.

Damn you can only watch 13 hours of video content per day now? Rough.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by rollcat »

sk11001 wrote: post #79
souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

We’re at a point where regular users already have everything they need, from any model in the past few years.

> We’re at a point where regular users already have everything they need [...]

We still don't have:

- an iPhone SE1-sized device

- USB-C on a "medium" (iPhone Mini)-sized device

- Touch ID or non-OLED screen on a non-budget device

- 3.5mm headphone jack (even after they backtracked on removing most ports from Macbooks)

Yeah basically can I just have a 2016 with an updated SoC please.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by nox101 »

saurik wrote: post #97
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

Apple often gates features on model number. They'll make up some BS about needing the power of the newer model to do X but they'll be plenty of demos of doing X on various platforms with less power.

Not saying I need those new features. Only that Apple's incentives are to try to get you to buy the new phone so they are incentivised to gate several software only features to try to get you to upgrade.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by billfor »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #24

So did they just give up on Blood-Oxygen sensing on the Watch? Thought it might be a good time to update my Watch 6 (black titanium) to a 10, since they brought back the black titanium, but they just have no answer for the blood-oxygen lawsuit?

The Samsung Galaxy Watch series still supports it, as well as blood pressure and sleep apnea (though you may have to hack it slightly to unlock those features in the US).

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by whycome »

saurik wrote: post #97
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Do people have to "upgrade" constantly? Shouldn't the iPhone get at least a little bit better every year, even if no one "upgrades"? I often use my devices for years until they break in some way, and then I get a new one... is it really so wrong that the 2024 model is only better in ways you don't care about from the 2023 model?

Especially when the upgrade cadence is just one year. It’s not a PS5 or whatever.

Like any evolution, the year over year changes shouldn’t be that drastic

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