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Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by vunderba »

daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

For what it's worth, there's already a free Raycast extension that lets you supply your own OpenAI key which lets you do this pretty easily. Wherever possible, I lean towards the BYOK (bring your own key approach).

https://github.com/raycast/extensions/tree/99c7c7c4fa02afba9...

Re: Kagi Assistant

#142

Post by vunderba »

stagalooo wrote: post #12

I've been curious about Kagi as a search engine for a while now and this seems like a good time to try, given that I already pay $20/month for ChatGPT. The thing stopping me currently from trying this or Claude is I rely on the Opt+Space shortcut with the ChatGPT mac app. Are there any other options for a native mac app with integration as good as the ChatGPT app?

I use Raycast which is a drop-in replacement for Mac spotlight along with the ChatGPT extension that lets you quickly search conversations / ask questions / etc once you provide it with your OpenAPI key.

https://github.com/raycast/extensions/tree/99c7c7c4fa02afba9...

Re: Kagi Assistant

#143

Post by mthoms »

ddingus wrote: post #133
__jonas wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

Interesting!! I'm not slamming you, or your experience or preferences. That said, I find very little difference between 2 seconds and one second or less than that. Search taking a small fragment of time just isn't a big deal and I search sometimes many times per day. What is the gain for you that makes 2 seconds an exception to using the product? Just curious. Peace, live well.

It doesn’t seem intuitive at first but this is a well researched phenomenon.

https://glinden.blogspot.com/2006/11/marissa-mayer-at-web-20...

Re: Kagi Assistant

#144

Post by vunderba »

freedomben wrote: post #66
bossyTeacher wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

I love being able to uprank, downrank, pin or blacklist specific domains/sites for my personal results. That alone makes it worth it. I also find the search results to be as good or better than Google. Once my personal ranking kicks in it's not even close.

I've had this feature for years by using the uBlacklist Firefox extension. With a single click after a search, you can permanently block a domain from coming up in your Google search results.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublacklist

First two extensions I always install on a new computer are uBlockOrigin and uBlackList.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#146

Post by vunderba »

xur17 wrote: post #122
freedomben wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried open-webui?[1] I've been using that and really loving it, but wondering if I should try out big-AGI [1]: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

Not to add more to the mix, but I've been very happy with Librechat: https://github.com/danny-avila/LibreChat

LibreChat is also one of the few LLM chat interfaces that works with both external APIs (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc) and local ones (hosted via Ollama, etc) out of the box.

If it has a downside, I'd say its a little more involved to get setup, lots of docker containers, etc then a more batteries-included approach like Jan.

https://github.com/janhq/jan

Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by onionisafruit »

hollowturtle wrote: post #46

What’s the incentive for websites to let Kagi and others indexing content if llms in search show relevant informations right away? Wouldn’t something like perplexity ai making more sense then? Or perhaps better application of llms to search

If you publish to make information known, then your incentive is that it helps spread that information to people who may not otherwise visit your site. If you are trying to make money off of search engine traffic then you might not like this much at all. I think most people would rather not be pointed to those sites in the first place, so it’s a win-win if they block crawlers.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#148

Post by freediver »

__jonas wrote: post #128
cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this? Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a co…

Kagi should be around 800ms mean. Faster if you are closer to our DC. Something is wrong, somewhere.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#149

Post by pigeons »

I don't know how to make this more meaningful than just an anecdote, but I love the idea of Kagi but just cancelled my subscription. All the issues about google search becoming more and more useless are absolutely true, but I still continue to get much better results for most topics with Google than Kagi. Same for Kagi's LLM products compared to directly using Claude or others.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#150

Post by grantcarthew »

hyperbolablabla wrote: post #108

I don't find Kagi as compelling as some other users seem to, worked about as well (read, poorly) as most other modern search engines

There are two killer features being no ads, and customise your search.

Don't want pinterest in your search results? Block it:

https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard

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