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It's worth pointing out that similar stuff (although not quite as egregious) is happening in Belarus, Brazil, and even the UK.
Add Germany to that list. A girl was sentenced to actual jail for insulting a rapist who was spared jail. Absolute madness.
Imagine people imprisoning a 90 year old woman for refusing to adopt their imposed narrative of a historical period in which she actively lived and participated.
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Well we are working it. In these riots we have charged a 12 year old orphan, sentenced 13 year old girl, jailed a guy for being “a curious observer”, and some woman for throwing water. Previously, we have sentenced a teenager for reposting a rap song, some guy for filming his pug doing nazi salute, and charged two guys for possession of a book ‘Anarchist cookbook’ Also we have charged a woman for silent prayer. So no…
The UK judges have stated that they will jail passive observers of the riots as a matter of policy, so it's not just that one guy: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/09/judge-refuses-ba...
This is standard pre-trial detention because pretty serious crimes were committed. Obviously if its found at their trial that they didn't commit any crime then they won't be going to prison.
It's worth pointing out that similar stuff (although not quite as egregious) is happening in Belarus, Brazil, and even the UK.
Add Germany to that list. A girl was sentenced to actual jail for insulting a rapist who was spared jail. Absolute madness.
Firstly she wasn't sentenced for insulting him, she was sentenced for threats of violence against him, specifically she wrote something like "you won't be able to go anywhere without having your face kicked in" and leaked his personal information.
Secondly she was in jail for 2 days, this was Freizeitarrest which is legally distinct from an actual prison sentence, with the aim of showing someone how unpleasant prison can be. You're not in a normal cell, don't have contact with regular prisoners, it doesn't leave a police record, doesn't have the same probation or anything.
Finally he wasn't sentenced to jail because he was a minor. He did get sentenced to 60 hours of labor with the proceeds going to her. I don't know whether 60 hours of unpaid (presumably) unpleasant labor is harsher than the very short "jail" sentence she got, personally I would say so but it probably depends on the person.
Personally I would agree that his sentence wasn't harsh enough, but German law doesn't really like giving minors harsh sentences. I think her punishment for the threats of violence were completely reasonable.
Look up what for people in Belarus are being locked up daily since 2020. Emojis, likes, simply caught with preview of the news cached on their phone... We call border crossing, either on land or thought airport, a "Belarusian roulette", because your never know... And it is not prominent people, just regular folks. And it is not in completely different culture - it is a very close to western traditions country, right…
> Look up what for people in Belarus are being locked up daily .... simply caught with preview of the news cached on their phone I live in Belarus, haven't heard of anyone locked for news cached on their phone. Could you provide sources of that info? I read all kinds of news, what if I am in danger...
Proposed solution was - disable all media caching in Telegram.
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Could you point to something happening in the UK you think is similar to this? Edit: I guess there's this [1] which free-speach maximalists would probably disagree with. Personally I think there's a line between free speech and calls to violence at which point its reasonable to prosecute people. She tweeted calling for people to set fire to buildings where migrants were being housed. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/arti…
Well we are working it. In these riots we have charged a 12 year old orphan, sentenced 13 year old girl, jailed a guy for being “a curious observer”, and some woman for throwing water. Previously, we have sentenced a teenager for reposting a rap song, some guy for filming his pug doing nazi salute, and charged two guys for possession of a book ‘Anarchist cookbook’ Also we have charged a woman for silent prayer. So no…
He claims he was a curious observer, but frankly he can claim whatever he likes. Like everyone in pre-trial detention he is innocent until proven guilty so his claim doesn't really change anything.
Buried under the rest of the article is this, since some people only do headlines I'll copy it here for visibility: >Shanbehzadeh was sentenced to five years for alleged pro-Israel propaganda activity, four years for insulting Islamic sanctities, two years for spreading lies online and an additional year for anti-regime propaganda. >His lawyer, Amir Raisian, told Shargh Network, a reformist newspaper in Iran, that he…
I sometimes asked people on HN, what news sites they consider to be of decent quality. And npr.org was recommended several times. Seeing this cheap manipulative article suggests they were mistaken. PS. Maybe his 12 years sentence is completely unjust, I don't know. But titles like this... How about "A man is sentenced to death after having cofee for breakfast" for an article about Charles Manson? (I suppose he had co…
but of course to a certain degree it's subjective.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/sorry-i-still-think-i-am-ri...
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They're left of the US centre (not global, US). Not "far left", not "very far left", and not "very, very far left".
Ok, you failed to show a single article with the right-wing perspective. How are they not far-left again?
What is the message that the dot tried to convey?
The dot got more "likes" than Khamenei's Tweet. He was able to "ratio" the supreme leader's message without saying anything at all, and apparently the government decided that's worth 12 years in prison.
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You both are actively lying. I'm not talking about Tyler Kay, I'm talking about Wayne O’Rourke, whose tweets did not advocate for murder at all, let alone “set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards”. Not once did I mention Tyler. That's something you fabricated to deceive and mislead. It's people like you that enable authoritarianism around the world by gaslighting others and justifying suppression of s…
Oh, that guy posted "Today was a terror attack by a Muslim...heads must roll" which again sounds like a call to violence to me. Sorry I picked the wrong guy calling for racial violence, my mistake.
Moreover, it's pretty clear that "heads must roll" is a euphemism used for people being punished or losing their job, and is almost always used in a non-violent context: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heads%20will%20ro...
There's no clear call to violence here. You are actively trying to justify tyranny.
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Add Germany to that list. A girl was sentenced to actual jail for insulting a rapist who was spared jail. Absolute madness.
Ok, there's some stuff that you seem confused about here. Firstly she wasn't sentenced for insulting him, she was sentenced for threats of violence against him, specifically she wrote something like "you won't be able to go anywhere without having your face kicked in" and leaked his personal information. Secondly she was in jail for 2 days, this was Freizeitarrest which is legally distinct from an actual prison sente…