Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

Post by diegoholiveira » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 4:27 PM UTC

tmottabr wrote: post #137

diegoholiveira wrote: post #114

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> Musk expect that a right wing government will align with him, and be in favor of blocking China and that would open the door for him to buy the mining companies instead.. Things in Brazil are not simple as that. Bolsonaro, the latest right wing president, did more business with china and russia than expected. He was one of the first chief of state to fly to Moscou when Russia invade Ukraine, to reinsure brazil woul…

He did more business then expected but he did not miss an opportunity to speak ill of china. There were even multiple letters from the Chinese embassy complaining about stuff he said.. China even blocked buying meat from Brazil for a while with the excuse of mad cow disease.. So regardless of how much business Bolsonaro did with China, he would be more inclined to help Elon in blocking China then the current left win…

Post by tmottabr » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 4:52 PM UTC

diegoholiveira wrote: post #141

tmottabr wrote: post #137

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He did more business then expected but he did not miss an opportunity to speak ill of china. There were even multiple letters from the Chinese embassy complaining about stuff he said.. China even blocked buying meat from Brazil for a while with the excuse of mad cow disease.. So regardless of how much business Bolsonaro did with China, he would be more inclined to help Elon in blocking China then the current left win…

nah, Bolsonaro criticizing China is the same as Lula criticizing the US: they are sending signals to their supporters. Both know that Brazil is not in a position to refuse to do business with China and the US.

Post by olivierduval » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 5:26 PM UTC

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You are free to express your opinions ("I don't like immigrants from Africa"), but you are not free to choose any manner of speech, as there's restrictions in certain areas, such as hate speech or inciting violence ("Kill the N-words!")

Isn't that full of loopholes though? It seems like that would allow someone in Germany to say "I think the Nazis were 100% right in what they did to the Jews", though my understanding is that would be very much illegal under German law. Similarly, would it be illegal to say "Kill the N-words!" but not "I think all the N-words should be killed!"? Obvious caveat - this is a highly contentious topic. Thank you for helpi…

Post by matheusmoreira » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 6:05 PM UTC

guax wrote: post #138

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People can do whatever they want. They just need to accept the consequences. I post my comments here knowing there's a risk this judge might learn of my existence and persecute me for them. I chose to accept that risk because I find this situation to appalling to keep quiet about it. This wasn't a choice I made lightly. My own parents who lived through last century's military dictatorship recognized the signs and ask…

> I post my comments here knowing there's a risk this judge might learn of my existence and persecute me for them My brother in Christ. There is ZERO chance of this to happen for this kind of comment and to me It only tells me you need to distance yourself a bit from this. Focus on something positive for a week. You're going down a path that is so far outside the realm of possibilities at this time that's worrisome.

Post by tmottabr » Mon, Sep 02, 2024, 6:20 PM UTC

diegoholiveira wrote: post #146

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Who said anything about stopping doing business with china?? What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. Australia is doing the same think right now.. Australia is currently the largest exporter of Lithium in the world and Chinese companies tried to buy some mining companies there but…

> What i said is that Elon expect that a right wing government would block, difficult or delay this single Chinese company from buying Sigma Lithium to help him to buy it instead.. My point is about this: Musk's expectations will most likely not be met, even with a right wing president. Brazil and China are strong trading partners (and friends nowadays, with Brics became a reality).