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Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Reaffirming my belief that I want nothing “smart” controlling critical infrastructure in my home. What if it were dead of winter, would he have been able to control the heat?

There needs to be a law that any hardware/software that goes into people homes has to be gplv3. Instead we get braindead ai bills that are threatening to kill open models…

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Any idea if that "POE board" has a FTDI USB to UART chip on it ?

The dialog he got when he plugged it in mentioned FTDI and "Vinculum" which appears to be a programmable USB interface chip with serial and SPI support https://ftdichip.com/products/vnc1l-1a/ https://ftdichip.com/software-examples/vinculum-projects/ Since it's not just a generic non-programmable serial chip I assume it's also doing something more. But it doesn't do Ethernet so I bet it's not actually PoE but like...…

It's an FT312D, which is a purpose-built android thingy that presents a serial port and allows the tablet to charge.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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> For whatever reason (I suspect some sort of storage failure) everyone’s tablets die around the same time. What a fun, completely coincidental quirk that that time appears to fall outside the warranty window, hey?

Very convenient for them and also easy to accomplish by buying the cheapest parts. It's probably eMMC-based and writing a logfile constantly. Source: every Android that has ever died on me in this exact way (four and counting)

Surely it can't cost much more to go for a larger eMMC chip and have it massively over-provisioned with plenty of space for wear levelling?

The underlying flash memory is trash and the controller already does a ton of heavy lifting to keep the data coherent.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Unfortunately, if/when someone from the manufacturer knows about it their first thought will not be "How do we make it easier for our customers". It will most likely be "How do we restrict this hack" and will eventually get into more restricted/quirky hardware & software.

I don't think they'll care about this. Probably only 1% of their customers are capable of "hacking" this. As long as the tablet replace is cheaper than getting a new AC unit from another company it's fine for them.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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I installed AC in my home in the last year. I specifically went for units that were IR controlled rather than any proprietary smart B.S. For the smarts, I used cheap IR blasters from AliExpress and hooked them up to HomeAssistant. I just mounted cheap Lenovo tablets to the wall to do the room-dashboard thing to allow controlling lights/AC without a phone. These kind of horror stories only serve to reinforce my decisi…

How did you pick cheap blasters compatible with HA?

I have a Broadcom one which works well but expensive.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think this is bad? Try swimming pool equipment.

I think home EV charging equipment is heading in the same direction as well. Very few have local and open APIs and instead depend on the vendors cloud service for control.

Yeah, but EV chargers are not that complicated. They are just smart contactors, with maaaybe some load management (EVSE can command the vehicle to reduce the charging rate).

Worst case, you just buy another one. It'll set you back a couple hundred dollars. Unpleasant, but not a big deal.

Air conditioning systems can easily cost more than $10k.

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

#148

I installed AC in my home in the last year. I specifically went for units that were IR controlled rather than any proprietary smart B.S. For the smarts, I used cheap IR blasters from AliExpress and hooked them up to HomeAssistant. I just mounted cheap Lenovo tablets to the wall to do the room-dashboard thing to allow controlling lights/AC without a phone. These kind of horror stories only serve to reinforce my decisi…

I was thinking of doing the same but IR control only allows for unidirectional communication with the unit.

Since there's no feedback mechanism, how do you solve for when the state of the unit(s) gets out of sync with HomeAssistant's?

Re: Air Con: $1697 for an on/off switch

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post #4

> For whatever reason (I suspect some sort of storage failure) everyone’s tablets die around the same time. What a fun, completely coincidental quirk that that time appears to fall outside the warranty window, hey?

I wonder if it could be they are logging and not clearing the logs, filling up the storage - since its happening around the same time for everyone.

Maybe not filling up but wearing out the flash chip itself. If it was filling up, then a factory reset should've helped.
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