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Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by badsectoracula »

subsection1h wrote: post #120
badsectoracula wrote: post #61

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> Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media Channel operator drama was a major thing with IRC back when it was popular (sometimes ending to like channel splits or even whole netsplits if the people involved were related to the server operators, bot/flood wars, etc), so yeah, there isn't anything specific to Reddit about it. I wasn't part of it but i am pretty sure you'd see the same patte…

> despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September" Usenet was the best discussion platform I've ever used. People who posted questions to comp.lang.c without first reading K&R were commonly killfiled. People who posted questions to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring newsgroups without first reading relevant W3C specs were commonly killfiled. It was awesome. Can anyon…

> It was awesome.

TBH this doesn't sound awesome, it sounds exactly the hotbed that spawns community drama, passive aggressive behavior and other human stuff you still see to this day :-P.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by c_prompt »

Etheryte wrote: post #34
maipen wrote: post #18

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> but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. Pretty much sums up every popular social media platform these days. HN is still a good place to learn about whats going on in the tech world and what not because it's simple and filters out alot of "brainrot", although there is an increasing number of comments that soley react at the headline. Reddit has become like meta, you either have an account or your us…

I feel like this is another example of a problem that could be easily solved if we had integrated, anonymous and frictionless payments on the web. For example, imagine a Reddit clone, but every comment you want to post costs one cent. For a regular user it takes a while to build up even a hundred comments, meanwhile for a spammer, this could quickly become costly. The hurdle of course is that no one wants to put thei…

I built it. [1] They didn't come.

[1] https://valme.io/c/gettingstarted/faq/kqqqs/how-valme-works

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by error_logic »

amiga386 wrote: post #53
hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #23

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Well, reddit became worse than that ~10 years ago because of the inconsistent, absurd, immature unreasonableness of a sizable fraction of mods who added suck and subtracted cool from the world. Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media platforms where community mods skew towards being drama-oriented, elitist, and/or crazy because no one else wants the job and so, like policing, it attract…

Not only do the jannies do it for free, I bet Reddit could get them to pay to be moderators, in the same way that free-to-play games exist so that the "whales" (big spenders) can pay the game operator real money to have an unfair advantage over the regular player base.

As if there wasn't already an issue with corporate sponsorship of moderation in some cases.

This would destroy the eusocial for-free moderation by people who simply want to create an environment they value and others benefit from in the process.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by theamk »

subsection1h wrote: post #120
badsectoracula wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe this is a pattern common to most all group-oriented social media Channel operator drama was a major thing with IRC back when it was popular (sometimes ending to like channel splits or even whole netsplits if the people involved were related to the server operators, bot/flood wars, etc), so yeah, there isn't anything specific to Reddit about it. I wasn't part of it but i am pretty sure you'd see the same patte…

> despite the romantization, i somehow doubt that Usenet was all roses before the "Eternal September" Usenet was the best discussion platform I've ever used. People who posted questions to comp.lang.c without first reading K&R were commonly killfiled. People who posted questions to the comp.infosystems.www.authoring newsgroups without first reading relevant W3C specs were commonly killfiled. It was awesome. Can anyon…

Note killfiles were per-user (they could be shared, but this was optional and required specific clients), so those blocked people were still visible for non-regulars.

The result was that newsgroups were very different for insiders vs outsiders: insiders saw nice clean message feed, outsiders saw tons of low-content messages with no replies and rare nugget of interesting info.

This was one of the big reasons why Usenet died for me: too much spam and useless messages, as there is no group-wide authority (and no, cancel bots never seemed to work)

Today, if you want heavily moderated group, there is plenty - they are simply scattered on the web. Many of them are phpbb-style forums, some discords and slacks (ugh...).

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by seabass-labrax »

rglullis wrote: post #117
seabass-labrax wrote: post #108

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Congratulations on the NLnet grant! I'm one of the 'silent' contingent on Reddit - frequently reads, but never posts. It is possible to use Mastodon or another ActivityPub application to interact with Lemmy (and vice-versa) to some extent, which will hopefully allow the two types of social networks to help each other grow. Would it be viable to add a setting for your own Fediverse account so that you could click on t…

Thanks! Something like what you want is in the works, but I'd like first to be able to authenticate Lemmy accounts in a way that does not scare users.

Sounds exciting :) I do want to point out that the way Mastodon does it doesn't require authentication from your home server - it just creates a URL redirect that points to it.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by epolanski »

mubu wrote: post #12

Reddit was my favorite website growing up. I'd discover new interesting subs, read random posts and comments. The frontpage was somewhat interesting too, but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. I still use Reddit but way less than I used to before, and I no longer use it for fun but just to read niche tech subs. I refuse to use the official mobile app. I've always used Baconreader and then Relay on A…

Their apps and website both keep getting worse and worse.

Reddit is one of those great examples were management and execs all feel like they need to show their impact and justify their salary and just make the platform worse.

Bots and propaganda are literally everywhere. The platform keeps getting worse but I admit it is to some extent addictive.

I am somewhat happy that HN is one of those places where politics are generally avoided.

I am sick of people arguing about geopolitics and national politics like it was some fan battle while not even knowing their mayor candidates programs, hell many don't even know who their mayor is or what their city council is working on.

This stems imho from the dead of traditional newspapers who were often local, in favor of internet media which is in its nature global.

I swear most people in Italy know more about US politics than what's happening in their own backyard, completely backwards.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by epolanski »

Etheryte wrote: post #34
maipen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. Pretty much sums up every popular social media platform these days. HN is still a good place to learn about whats going on in the tech world and what not because it's simple and filters out alot of "brainrot", although there is an increasing number of comments that soley react at the headline. Reddit has become like meta, you either have an account or your us…

I feel like this is another example of a problem that could be easily solved if we had integrated, anonymous and frictionless payments on the web. For example, imagine a Reddit clone, but every comment you want to post costs one cent. For a regular user it takes a while to build up even a hundred comments, meanwhile for a spammer, this could quickly become costly. The hurdle of course is that no one wants to put thei…

Payments are already overwhelmingly frictionless online.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by epolanski »

kyriakos wrote: post #136
maipen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. Pretty much sums up every popular social media platform these days. HN is still a good place to learn about whats going on in the tech world and what not because it's simple and filters out alot of "brainrot", although there is an increasing number of comments that soley react at the headline. Reddit has become like meta, you either have an account or your us…

reddit is still good for some niches. non mainstream subreddits still have decent conversation and you can find help and info about topics or products that you cant find anywhere else. its not what it used to be but if you steer away from the home page and go directly to what you need its still good.

Niches are better served by old plain forums which are still to date, imho, the best way to talk most topics.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by carlosjobim »

Etheryte wrote: post #34
maipen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but now it feels like a bot fest and propaganda machine. Pretty much sums up every popular social media platform these days. HN is still a good place to learn about whats going on in the tech world and what not because it's simple and filters out alot of "brainrot", although there is an increasing number of comments that soley react at the headline. Reddit has become like meta, you either have an account or your us…

I feel like this is another example of a problem that could be easily solved if we had integrated, anonymous and frictionless payments on the web. For example, imagine a Reddit clone, but every comment you want to post costs one cent. For a regular user it takes a while to build up even a hundred comments, meanwhile for a spammer, this could quickly become costly. The hurdle of course is that no one wants to put thei…

> but every comment you want to post costs one cent.

It should cost at least 10 cents. And I think your idea is the future.

Re: Reddit banned me for developing Geddit

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Post by carlosjobim »

wildrhythms wrote: post #127
latexr wrote: post #55

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> imagine a Reddit clone, but every comment you want to post costs one cent. For a regular user it takes a while to build up even a hundred comments, meanwhile for a spammer, this could quickly become costly. That site wouldn’t have any spam, true. Though not because of the cost, but because it wouldn’t have any users to make it worth spamming. No one wants to pay per message. Everybody would be too nervous and quadr…

>but every comment you want to post costs one cent So the wealthiest people get to spread the most propaganda?

I think you have to have assets worth significantly more than one cent in order to count yourself among the wealthiest. Just my two cents.
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