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Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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wasn't aware that 'anonym' existed. I don't care if PII is stripped or not. the answer to 'helping advertisers' or anything with advertisement metrics in any fashion is always 'No.' - training things so that there's better data on how to best manipulate our psyche / give people data to psychologically manipulate us in to buying/doing things is a hard 'No.' > Asked whether Mozilla has any concerns that its user base,…

> advertising as a business model is what allows the internet to be free and open to everyone

My favorite period in internet history was the years in which self-hosted phpBB forums dominated the social landscape. We had a diverse set of forums paid for by one or more of their participants, who made the forum available simply because they liked hanging out with the community they were hosting.

Advertising-based social media took all the air from that model and replaced it with the enormous advertising-driven attention economy. Genuine social interaction was largely replaced by vacuous attempts to get "engagement" as the platforms persuaded millions to act in their interests. Vulnerable interactions with persistent communities that allowed real internet friendships to develop gave way to ephemeral rage bait that ruins real life friendships.

I'm not saying that advertising is the root of every single social ill we have today, but it's responsible for its good share of them.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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Here's the Firefox CTO explaining the motivation behind the experiment controlled by this setting, and the measures taken to ensure that it actually is private: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_abo...

The hypocrisy in this post is astonishing. > The Internet has become a massive web of surveillance And Mozilla are contributing to it in all but name. > primary reason many of us are at Mozilla. If that is the case, and this is the best fight you can muster give up, go home and hand over the fight to better people. A mission to create the weapons people need to fight online surveillance requires guile, a strong will,…

Truth.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#143

wasn't aware that 'anonym' existed. I don't care if PII is stripped or not. the answer to 'helping advertisers' or anything with advertisement metrics in any fashion is always 'No.' - training things so that there's better data on how to best manipulate our psyche / give people data to psychologically manipulate us in to buying/doing things is a hard 'No.' > Asked whether Mozilla has any concerns that its user base,…

Also advertising is certainly not the reason the web is free. It was free before the insane amount of advertising. Maybe for platforms like Youtube or similar sites advertising is part of their business model. But the primary reason here is foremost people creating content. That Youtube has insane infrastructure costs is secondary and we certainly don't need Browsers to help advertising at all. If it doesn't stay opt…

I might not be old enough to remember when the internet was ad free but I'm 34 and since I've been on the internet, popups and advertising garbage have always been around. I want to say I started using it around 1996-1997

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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I personally don't care if 90% of websites which rely on advertising disappear or replace their monetization strategy with gated, paid access. I even think this is a good thing. As such, I will fight the ability of websites to monetize by tracking wherever I can.

This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet. Also most people don't want to pay for content. This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

Going back to 90s internet is a very good thing.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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I don't wholly disagree, but it's always a tad ironic to read "money is ruining the free/open internet" discussion on a free forum powered by VC money.

On a free forum ran by an actual VC even, not just powered by the money...

Yeah but the layout is basic and doesn't use javascript so you know they're cool.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally don't care if 90% of websites which rely on advertising disappear or replace their monetization strategy with gated, paid access. I even think this is a good thing. As such, I will fight the ability of websites to monetize by tracking wherever I can.

This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet. Also most people don't want to pay for content. This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

> This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

99.99% of your web.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet. Also most people don't want to pay for content. This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

> This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear. 99.99% of your web.

99.99% of the web, full stop.

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

#148
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet. Also most people don't want to pay for content. This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

Going back to 90s internet is a very good thing.

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Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This means that people without means will automatically be excluded from the internet. Also most people don't want to pay for content. This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear.

Going back to 90s internet is a very good thing.

Which site from the 90s are you still visiting regularly in it's 90s form?

Re: Make Firefox Private Again

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> This just means that 99.99% of the web will instantly disappear. 99.99% of your web.

99.99% of the web, full stop.

What about HN? What about make-firefox-private-again.com? Go through the HN frontpage and the links. Thats why i'm sure you are wrong.
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