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Re: Eric Schmidt deleted Stanford interview

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Post by jl2718 » Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 2:33 PM UTC

mikewarot wrote: post #110

At about 39 minutes in, he's asked if efforts analogous to seti at home can be used to get around the scaling problems with training the next round of big models. He gives a strongly NVidia oriented answer that I happen to think is dead wrong. Pushing more and more GPU/Memory bandwidth into more and more expensive packages that are obsolete after a year or two isn't the approach that I think will win in the end. I th…

I think you need higher algorithmic intensity. Gradient descent is best for monolithic GPUs. There could be other possibilities for layer-distributed training.

Re: Eric Schmidt deleted Stanford interview

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Post by genocidicbunny » Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

wordofx wrote: post #140

genocidicbunny wrote: post #138

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You haven't produced an iota of evidence to support your claims as being facts. It's almost like such decisions aren't made based on a single binary argument, but on a lot of different factors. Sure, I could live closer to work. I'd be paying more for a smaller house, worse schools, more local traffic, more noise, neighbors that are a little closer than comfortable. But yes, then I'd be able to get on the bus and rid…

I love how you write a novel to justify not being able to manage your work/life balance.

It's interesting how you're able to read something and take away the complete opposite meaning from it.

Id say I'm managing a work/life balance pretty well here. You're the one suggesting it's too heavily skewed towards the "life" part.

Re: Eric Schmidt deleted Stanford interview

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Post by pierrefermat1 » Tue, Aug 20, 2024, 8:18 PM UTC

dangus wrote: post #120

pierrefermat1 wrote: post #57

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Your CEO may very well be working those hours too except for good reason since he's value aligned+ highly leveraged and able to capture the benefits from the extra work

This is a misconception as well. The perfect example of this is Elon Musk. If he’s the CEO of 5 companies, the position of CEO is clearly a part-time job. Have you taken a vacation to go wind surfing this year? Mark Zuckerberg has!

Yes at the extremes where you have sufficient leverage the hours are irrelevant, but for any pre-IPO stage CEO my statement is clearly not a misconception.

Re: Eric Schmidt deleted Stanford interview

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Post by the_black_hand » Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 7:54 AM UTC

xyse53 wrote: post #45

aaomidi wrote: post #29

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Googlers used to regularly work 50-60 hours. You did have the teams that had a decent WLB, but it was generally the non public facing stuff. Google’s WLB ironically got significantly better after the layoffs. No one cared about the company anymore.

This. I worked hard at Google for years because I was pationate about my projects and my colleagues. Then over the past few years especially starting around dragonfly and maven we started getting more of an us vs them culture pushed down from the top. Layoffs were the end for me. I didn't exactly quiet quit but I toned it down and only worked on what I absolutely felt like. Then jumped over to a startup where we work…

To me startups just inherently have a bigger carrot at the end of the stick. being an early engineer in a successful startup can bring life-changing money. In a 1T company with 100,000 of engineers it just isn't possible to have that incentive. your best work is often a drop in the ocean that some VP will shelve at the fist sign of trouble. Yeah working weekends can get you that promotion quicker and give a salary bump, but it's not the same as watching the company IPO and becoming an engineer overnight.