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I Received an AI Email

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Re: I Received an AI Email

#142
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Why are you happy that people are out of a job here? You still suffer the ills of the product, now infinitely more incessant, at a marginal cost of $0.

Because maybe, just maybe — those people will find some other jobs, and those jobs will be more socially beneficial this time? One can dream.

“maybe, just maybe”

“One can dream.”

You’ve either used these sarcastically, or accurately. I think you’ve done the former, but the truth is the latter.

Re: I Received an AI Email

#143

It's a sign of things to come. We're going to have our own AI agents that filter and respond (or not respond) to these kinds of messages. Agents interacting with other agents. The bar to get hold of a real person is going to become that much higher. It is going to be messy for some time as agents war with other agents to reach the human eyeball. Some assholes are going to make a ton of money in the short term exploit…

Technology ruins everything it touches doesn't it? I was recently thinking about this Ozempic fad and how it will lead to no one being overweight but just be dependant on Ozempic...until food producers that made everyone fat in the first place with their processed junk will produce Ozempic resistant foods...and then we are really in a world of hurt.

No, there are many things technology has improved, not ruined

Re: I Received an AI Email

#144

I’m actually thrilled by this, as it means all the hack marketers that spam my inbox incessantly with whatever product they’re hucking - this time for sure perfect for my business, in spite of the fact I’ve ignored their last ten emails - are all out of a job, and good riddance. The author sounds unfamiliar with this brand of marketing email, so I can see why it would come off disquieting to find it’s all AI - but it…

I've found it's easier to simply ignore your inbox and hope the spam unsubscribes itself and disappears

Re: I Received an AI Email

#145

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Wait, is this written by an AI?

Yes. The dead giveaway is multiple paragraphs of bullshit where one sentence would suffice. People ain't got time for that.

That is the giveaway for some of the high-profile LLMs. The ones I run locally with ollama can be VERY close to perfectly human, subtle typos and all

Re: I Received an AI Email

#146
post #133

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Technology ruins everything it touches doesn't it? I was recently thinking about this Ozempic fad and how it will lead to no one being overweight but just be dependant on Ozempic...until food producers that made everyone fat in the first place with their processed junk will produce Ozempic resistant foods...and then we are really in a world of hurt.

What incentive do they have to make Ozempic resistant food? Ozempic resistance seems like an odd thing to optimize for. Or are you suggesting it will happen accidentally?

Ozempic reduces appetite, right? So food producers cannot be happy about it.

Re: I Received an AI Email

#147
post #103

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Haha, exactly this. I've built and successfully been using Unspam[0] for this reason since about a year ago. In corporate/business world, anything where SDR sales are involved this form of automated AI outbound mail has picked up a lot. Tools like Apollo automates this AI process (both finding leads to mail, and then crafting the mail). For interest sake, users of Unspam that have a title of CEO on their Linkedin see…

Most likely, SDR = Sales Development Representative, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_development#Process

Correct! :')

Re: I Received an AI Email

#148
post #116

It's a sign of things to come. We're going to have our own AI agents that filter and respond (or not respond) to these kinds of messages. Agents interacting with other agents. The bar to get hold of a real person is going to become that much higher. It is going to be messy for some time as agents war with other agents to reach the human eyeball. Some assholes are going to make a ton of money in the short term exploit…

Why do you need “AI” to do Bayesian filtering?

They said other things besides just filtering, like writing responses.

Re: I Received an AI Email

#149
post #117

PSA: GitHub has a “private” email feature so you don’t have to use your real email in commits. https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-an...

Seems to be enabled by default, or at least it was on my relatively recent account created in 2022.

Re: I Received an AI Email

#150
post #104

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Getting peed at a couple times a day isn't a problem if the pee-ees miss 99% od the time, right? Small acts of malice are still acts of malice. Not everyone wants to live in a caveat emptor , dog-eats-dog society.

Having tried to start a business and known other business owners, I will die on this hill: sales and marketing are not "acts of malice". Without salespeople we wouldn't live in the world we lived today. This is like the irrational hate some developers have for recruiters, despite them finding jobs for many people that they otherwise would never have known about.

> This is like the irrational hate some developers have for recruiters

It's not like that. As a business owner, be honest with us and yourself: just how much of sales and marketing you did was just bullshit? Exaggerated claims bordering on lies? Manipulative patterns? Inducing demand?

Approximately all marketing is that. It is that because it works, and those who refuse to do it get outcompeted by those who don't. Doesn't mean the world should be like that, or that I'd like to be subjected to it.

I also question the "we wouldn't live in the world we lived today" bit. In a competitive environment, marketing is a zero-sum game[0]: there's only so many people around, with so much money and time available; most of the marketing spend ends up being used to cancel out the efforts of the competition, and that race can consume all surplus of a company. Red Queen's race and all.

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[0] Or negative-sum, if you account for externalities.

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