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Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

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Post by westurner »

qingcharles wrote: post #138
niij wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of these sentences seem sort of related. You're just linking to Google searches and providing random snippets from linked sites. Overall this comment and many of the comments in your history look like spam.

It's the style of comments you get on a lot of conspiracy sites. I see comment styles like that on a lot of articles linked from places like rense.com.

No, these are all hand prepared.

This is called research, and it does require citations.

Please do not harass overachievers who do the research work instead of just talking to talk.

#areyouarobotorsimilar

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#142

Post by westurner »

niij wrote: post #137
westurner wrote: post #104

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/? fednow API: https://www.google.com/search?q=fednow+api [...] - From https://explore.fednow.org/resources?id=67#_Who_should_downl... : > Who should download the FedNow ISO 20022 message specifications and how can I access them? > The Federal Reserve is using the MyStandards® platform to provide access to the FedNow ISO 20022 message specifications and accompanying implementation guide. You can access these on the F…

Some of these sentences seem sort of related. You're just linking to Google searches and providing random snippets from linked sites. Overall this comment and many of the comments in your history look like spam.

Compared to aigen with citations found for whatever was generated without consideration for truth and ethical reasoning?

The heuristics should be improved, then; we shouldn't ask me to put these in PDFs without typed edges to URLs and schema.org/Datasets, to support a schema.org/Claim or a ClaimReview in a SocialMediaPosting about a NewsArticle about a ScholarlyArticle :about a Thing skos:Concept with a :url.

Would you have deep linked your way to those resources (which are useful enough to be re-cited here for later reference) without the researcher doing it for you?

Technical writing courses for example advise to include the searches that you used in the databases that you found oracles in, in order to help indicate the background research bias prior to the hypothesis at least.

Transparency and Accountability: https://westurner.github.io/hnlog/

So, this sort of cited input is valuable and should be valued not as link spam but as linked edge-dense research sans generatble prose.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#143

Post by niij »

westurner wrote: post #142
niij wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of these sentences seem sort of related. You're just linking to Google searches and providing random snippets from linked sites. Overall this comment and many of the comments in your history look like spam.

Compared to aigen with citations found for whatever was generated without consideration for truth and ethical reasoning? The heuristics should be improved, then; we shouldn't ask me to put these in PDFs without typed edges to URLs and schema.org/Datasets, to support a schema.org/Claim or a ClaimReview in a SocialMediaPosting about a NewsArticle about a ScholarlyArticle :about a Thing skos:Concept with a :url. Would y…

> Technical writing courses for example advise to include the searches that you used in the databases that you found oracles in, in order to help indicate the background research bias prior to the hypothesis at least.

I'm not writing a doctoral thesis. These comments are not my livelihood. I'm just sharing industry knowledge on a topic I know about.

Your random links without context, some of the links to literal Google searches, are not in any way useful or interesting.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#144

Post by hombre_fatal »

fsckboy wrote: post #127
kmeisthax wrote: post #19

Ironically, Apple just announced P2P payments. Which means this is almost certainly a temporary closure. Google will almost certainly relaunch with a new name, branding, and UX that rides on the coattails of Apple's marketing efforts, but P2P will be coming back. If you're competing with Apple, you can't just not do a thing Apple is doing.

> If you're competing with X, you can't just not do a thing X is doing this simply isn't true there are reasons to compete, like not lose the share of those who find that feature important, or to attack the profitability of that service for your competitor but there are reasons not to compete, like losing too much money and not impacting your competitor. This is why Google and Apple as corporations barely look alike…

You’re making a trivial claim. When I say the sun will probably rise tomorrow, I’m not saying that anything that happens before will happen again.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#145

Post by jeffwask »

jeffwask wrote: post #69
tacocataco wrote: post #21

I am exhausted switching services. please can we pick one and be done with it? How about adversarial integration? Why can't I send money from cashapp to venmo? Is the technology not there yet? I wish the post office was a bank and they hosted their own pay apps.

Honestly, I made the mistake of looking to standardize on Google when I bought a Pixel. I got the watch some Google Home devices and they have in the following years terminated the Fit API, terminated gPay, reduce the integration to Home at this point I have no trust in Google to even maintain the basic services they offered the year prior.

This made me recall another great Googlism. My Google Home device can stream music and what is that default player when I say OK, Google play...

It's Spotify. I'm a YouTube Subscriber, you know another Google product which is a Spotify competitor. Ok Google play AC/DC on YouTube Music. Nope, it's commercials in Spotify.

Can you imagine a world where Apple sold the music rights on the iPad to Spotify?

It's so ludicrously short sighted and against the whole principle of an integrated Google ecosystem. They sabotage long term gains for short term profit and wonder why they keep failing. Well, maybe because you compete against yourselves.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#146

Post by westurner »

niij wrote: post #143
westurner wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to aigen with citations found for whatever was generated without consideration for truth and ethical reasoning? The heuristics should be improved, then; we shouldn't ask me to put these in PDFs without typed edges to URLs and schema.org/Datasets, to support a schema.org/Claim or a ClaimReview in a SocialMediaPosting about a NewsArticle about a ScholarlyArticle :about a Thing skos:Concept with a :url. Would y…

> Technical writing courses for example advise to include the searches that you used in the databases that you found oracles in, in order to help indicate the background research bias prior to the hypothesis at least. I'm not writing a doctoral thesis. These comments are not my livelihood. I'm just sharing industry knowledge on a topic I know about. Your random links without context, some of the links to literal Goog…

I haven't asked you to do anything.

Thanks for your time

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#147

Post by qingcharles »

westurner wrote: post #141
qingcharles wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the style of comments you get on a lot of conspiracy sites. I see comment styles like that on a lot of articles linked from places like rense.com.

No, these are all hand prepared. This is called research, and it does require citations. Please do not harass overachievers who do the research work instead of just talking to talk. #areyouarobotorsimilar

I certainly didn't think the comments weren't human-generated. I was actually defending you. I just think your style of commenting comes across as unusual here, which is why it attracts attention. On other parts of the Internet the style you use is more common and would not raise eyebrows.

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#148

Post by sa-code »

Longhanks wrote: post #90
sa-code wrote: post #34

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In Europe people can send money from any bank to any bank through IBAN numbers (your bank account number) Not sure what's taking so long in the states

Sure, and that takes 24 hours to be processed (business days only). And IBANs are not very user friendly. In the US, this is solved by PayPal. Not sure what's taking so long for europe to launch a competitor.

Your response sounds a bit defensive of the US, my intention is not to start a tribe war and I apologise if I have done that. There are plenty of things that the US does well that Europe does not, if that's any consolation.

Paypal exists in the EU as well but this is a layer on top of a banking system and not quite a "native" solution. I would like a "native banking" way to send and receive money when I am both in the EU and the US :)

Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US

#149

Post by fsckboy »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #144
fsckboy wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're competing with X, you can't just not do a thing X is doing this simply isn't true there are reasons to compete, like not lose the share of those who find that feature important, or to attack the profitability of that service for your competitor but there are reasons not to compete, like losing too much money and not impacting your competitor. This is why Google and Apple as corporations barely look alike…

You’re making a trivial claim. When I say the sun will probably rise tomorrow, I’m not saying that anything that happens before will happen again.

I'm not making a trivial claim, read a few books by Michael Porter then come back and talk.
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