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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by nullindividual »

smsm42 wrote: post #25
nullindividual wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is available across the two major desktop operating systems, but you'd have to read the article to find that out. > The Passwords app is free to download, available across iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and MacOS 15, and will also work with the Vision Pro and Windows computers, says Apple.

No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.

Linux isn't even relevant in this context with it's <1% DWM install base. Android, yes you have a point, though a Mac and Android is a strange combination.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by drcongo »

ipqk wrote: post #127

I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…

I'm only still on it because of team use, but if Apple's thing supports teams I'm gonna be so happy to get rid of it.

I've been using it for nearly 20 years and it's been going down hill fast for the last 5, but 1Password 8 is an absolute clown car. It hijacks your passkey logins meaning that authenticating with Tailscale for me has gone from a single touch of the TouchID button on my Mac, to 1) click button that says "Unlock 1Password", 2) Click it again because it did fuck all the first time, 3) hit the global hotkey for 1Password, 4) open 1Password via Alfred because the hotkey has decided to stop working again, 5) touch the TouchID button to unlock 1Password, 6) switch back to the browser to find that my Tailscale auth has timed out, 7) back to iTerm to initiate the auth again, 8) if I'm lucky, I can now touch the TouchID button to use my Apple passkey, if I'm not, it's back to step 1.

I'd challenge anyone to name an app that has been ruined more by VC money than 1Password.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by daft_pink »

I think it needs multiple domains for an account. It appears this hasn’t changed from their current setup from the screenshots in the presentation.

I don’t want to switch from 1pass if I can’t set 2 or 3 separate webdomains for an account as I find this to be the most annoying feature of apple passwords, when a website has a separate register page from it’s login pages. In 1pass you can just delete the subdomain and add domains. Apple doesn’t allow you to edit at all :(

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by m_a_g »

I wasn’t expecting this much hate towards 1Password in the comments. I was using Google Passwords, then migrated to Apple, finally to 1P7 and now 1P8. It’s one of the best software I’ve ever used and I don’t know what I’d do without it. Same goes for Fastmail as well.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by Tyrannosaur »

stvltvs wrote: post #81
ein0p wrote: post #12

This needs to be multiplatform for it to be a viable option for the more tech inclined. I run all three major desktop operating systems plus iOS, so I use Bitwarden

I'm using KeepassXC for similar reasons although there's no official Android port last I checked.

Keepass2Android has been working great for me for almost a decade now

https://github.com/PhilippC/keepass2android

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Post by spike021 »

Toutouxc wrote: post #128
duxup wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often was looking to see "do I have that in keychain" and ... I'd forget where to find it as it wasn't a dedicated app.

You’re both talking about iOS, right? Because on the Mac it’s always been a dedicated app.

Yeah. But even for Mac it's always been more of a technical utility app. When I say that it feels more akin to Disk Utility than the Notes app (in terms of who it's meant for).

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by dylan604 »

ipqk wrote: post #127

I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…

I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement.

I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until the forced to a monthly rent seeking hand in my pocket policy was deployed, I had been a vocal advocate for 1Pass. Now, they're about to loose me altogether

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